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Can Having Genital Preferences for Dating Mean You’re Anti-Trans?

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secular111 · 12/10/2017 21:25

From Everyday Feminism - though I still reckon the site is a satire site.

everydayfeminism.com/2017/04/cissexist-say-never-date-trans/

Anyway, in summary - basically if you don't date trans folk, you are 'cissexist'.

'So if we look a little deeper into this issue, there’s the possibility of your genital preferences being at least somewhat partially informed by growing up in a cissexist society. There’s also the fact that a preference is different than saying you would never do something.'

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FattyCat · 28/11/2017 19:36

LangCleg sexualities not generalities is perfect.

FattyCat · 28/11/2017 19:15

Ttbb

Where you might fall down is that trans women who are attracted to women identify themselves as lesbians with a cock.

So you could have sex with a woman with a cock and call yourself a lesbian, while basically doing what straight people have been doing since the dinosaurs conked out.

Refusing to date a trans man would render you a transphobe in some circles.

Sorry if this sounds to Alice through the looking glass. The world has gone mad.

Congrats on liking cocks, and I don't mean that sarcastically. Women's sexuality has gone out of the window in the face of this stuff.

LangCleg · 28/11/2017 19:08

Oh, honestly. This whole "genital preferences" thing is such nonsense (as some sisters have clearly explained vis a vis lesbian sex above). Sexuality is much more than a genital preference, FGS.

Human beings have sexualities not genderalities.

Most trans people maintain their sexuality post transition. Why on earth they would think other people would suddenly change theirs because A N Other has self-identified, is beyond me.

It's rotten for trans people that coming out means a reduced dating pool as most people are a) heterosexual and b) fairly vanilla in their choice of partners. But that doesn't mean everyone else has to adjust accordingly. Gay men and lesbians have worked with reduced dating pools since forever and they don't go around demanding everyone turn homosexual so they get a better choice of partner.

FattyCat · 28/11/2017 19:03

Wave back to SomeDyke Wink

SomeDyke · 28/11/2017 18:52

Even trans who have had bottom surgery don't get wet, they don't swell up in the same way, they don't smell or taste right.
Yes, let's face it at best they have the mainstream male version of what a vagina should do -- be a sheath for a penis. So, a hole, that's about it, at best.

Quick wave to all the fellow vagina-fetishists! Fannies are fun, clits are cute! They do such interesting things, feel and smell and taste nice, fun all round! Smile

FattyCat · 28/11/2017 18:47

Athingwithfeathers....

Thank you. You have mentioned the unmentionable, which never gets talked about.

Even trans who have had bottom surgery don't get wet, they don't swell up in the same way, they don't smell or taste right.

Sorry to all the straight sisters for whom this is too much info.

Ttbb · 28/11/2017 18:47

If I, a heterosexual woman, would never date a trans man (for lack of a penis and sperm etc) but would co wider dating a transwoman provided that she has functional male reproductive anatomy am I still anti trans or do I just really like penises?

AThingWithFeathers · 28/11/2017 18:36

I love the smell of vulvas; upon arousal the smell intensifies and it's such a turn-on.
A natal man will never smell like a natal woman.

Miffer · 15/10/2017 18:28

It is interesting that YouTube have "demonitised" White (and Ben Shapiro) for being too controversial. I understand this means their channels now do not carry adverts and they no longer get revenue from viewings

They were just two of many many many people effected by it on all sides of lots of political divides.

Also Blair White is a terrible fucking person and could remove all the trans stuff from her channel and would still have been hit with the adpocolypse.

CredulousThickos · 15/10/2017 18:01

I’m of the opinion that most ‘trans lesbians’ are just autogynephiles. Men who get their rocks off by fetishising femininity.

Not all, but most.

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 17:46

It's interesting to see that there seems to be a difference between transwomen who sleep with men and women.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 15/10/2017 17:20

To be fair there are other views.

Blair White has also posted several videos about how much she opposes transition of under 18s.

It is interesting that YouTube have "demonitised" White (and Ben Shapiro) for being too controversial. I understand this means their channels now do not carry adverts and they no longer get revenue from viewings.

SmartiesHaveTheAnswer · 15/10/2017 16:45

Not RTFT but the number of Lesbians that have been abused and branded as transphobic for not sleeping with transwomen is scary. I'm pretty sure that Magdalen Bern was thrown out of the LGBT society for this reason.

For those of you who are new to this, start googling 'The Cotton Ceiling'. It's how I started my education on the whole Transactivist debate. I started from a 'oh god not another thread..' to 'wtf? Cotton ceiling?' to worry, concern and alarm bells ringing, to full-on peak trans.

This shit is scary and it's deeply political and too many of the British public are sleepwalking into a dangerous policy where their daughter, wives, sisters and mothers are losing their rights to safeguarding.

I wish more people would open their eyes. Like I did.

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 15:30

I resist penises all the time.

Penis resister is my punk band name, and possibly my next username

HornyTortoise · 15/10/2017 15:20

They resist the penis.

Worst crime ever, don't you know...pathetic and dare I say, rapey, individual.

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 14:02

That's actually heartbreaking.
My eyes welled up when they said it was a city built and run for and by women, that sounds so appealing. I would genuinely haveoved to have gone there.

Why the fuck aren't lesbians allowed to have their culture, what is wrong with people?

It's always the fucking women who have to bow down isn't it.

QuentinSummers · 15/10/2017 13:59

This is a better article. It sounds like it was awesome
www.curvemag.com/News/Michigan-Womyns-Music-Festival-to-End-after-40-Years-447/

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 13:57

Oh for fucks sake

QuentinSummers · 15/10/2017 13:55

Also that music festival sounds great!!! Shall we have a mumsnet trip out?
It's not running any more. Took a lot of heat for not admitting trans women.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/jezebel.com/trans-excluding-michigan-womyns-music-festival-to-end-t-1699412910/amp

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 13:52

Well we bleed in one way that's different to you.

Bucketsandspoons · 15/10/2017 13:39

We have feelings. If you cut us, we bleed, just like you. We are beautiful and strong. We have desirable bodies. We need love like everyone else. We are society evolving. Maybe this is scary or goes against the moral fiber of your beliefs. All we ask for is a chance to love who we want to love and be who we want to be

In other words, fgs validate us!! Give us what we want! It's so mean and unkind and closed minded of you to withhold it. This is the theme of men throughout time: it's your job to meet our needs however you may feel about it.

No, it's not my job to sleep with you so you can be who you want to be. And while you may well be beautiful and strong and brave and a lovely person, you are male bodied, and there is no way around that reality.

SentimentalLentil · 15/10/2017 13:35

My DH just reached peak trans this morning, it was Pippa Bunce what did it.

Also what female has ever 'sowed her wild oats'.
That is a term only used for young men because obviously the need sex, they needs it!!!
I did laugh out loud at the resisting penis bit though, THEY RESIST THE PENIS. Well yes that's kind of what lesbians do, well I think it's more that they prefer a fanny and then by default resist a penis but whatever.

Also that music festival sounds great!!! Shall we have a mumsnet trip out?

Bucketsandspoons · 15/10/2017 13:28

They resist the penis.

The naughty minxes!! Grin

The narcissism in that, the utter inability to respect a woman's feelings or thoughts - "your resistance to my penis is irrational and illogical! I have explained to you why you must like my penis !"

It's the language of abuse. Women in refuges would recognise exactly this kind of compulsion and differing standards.

Datun · 15/10/2017 10:19

exexpat

(Yet again, I had to skim, because of the me, me, me tedium that always characterises these articles.)

The blindness and hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Acknowledging that they prefer real women, and condemning lesbians for exactly the same thing.

Has anyone ever found a blog by transwoman who talks about hobbies, art, literature, cinema. Anything other than their own tedious journey, followed immediately with complaints about how they can't get laid.

Ereshkigal · 15/10/2017 10:16

I needed to sow my wild oats, my girl oats. Life was all new. Being an attractive female changes the game. I chased after cis women, thinking that they were the prize. They were what I still wanted. In my mind, I thought, I look good, I can blend in. I think I can get myself a cis women again

Couldn't possibly sound more male.

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