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Court put in lockdown as dangerous 'dirty protest' transexual prisoner appears in dock half naked

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pisacake · 07/10/2017 16:13

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/court-put-lockdown-dangerous-dirty-11081394
"A courtroom was put into lockdown today for the sentencing of a transexual prisoner said to be one of the most dangerous inmates in the whole of the Scottish prison system.

Tiffany Scott, formerly known as Andrew Burns, was led into the dock, half naked to the waist, wearing the remains of a shirt torn to shreds, before shouting vile abuse at a sheriff."

"Members of the public were cleared from the courtroom, amid fears that Scott, who has been known to bite open his own veins and spray blood at people, presented "a clear danger"."

"Scott shouted "f*g transphobe bd" and "c**" as Sheriff Livingston jailed him for a further year on five charges of assault and one of criminal damage, ordering the term to be served consecutive to his present, indeterminate sentence."

"The charges followed incidents between August and October 2015 while Scott, of Kinglassie, Fife, was in a segregation unit in Glenochil.

At the time, prison staff were complying with his requests that he should be known as "Mighty Almighty", or Obi Wan Kenobi."

"He covered himself in excrement which he also smeared round his cell door and over the observation port, and staged a self-hanging by shredding his tear-proof clothing into strips and making a noose, which he suspended from a sprinkler valve.

Warders – wearing full-body protective clothing, including helmet, visor, and gloves, and carrying 4ft by 2ft Plexiglass shields amid fears that Scott was armed with a medical cannula she had ripped from her body during hospital treatment – had to burst into her cell to save his life."

"Fellow prison officer Colin Park, 41, said Scott had told staff he had "weapons secreted", such as razor blades and needles, with which he could have harmed them, which was why he and his fellow officers had to wear full protective clothing to enter her cell and cut the noose from her neck during her attempted hanging."

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/sex-swap-prisoner-sparks-revolt-7666459

"Violent criminal Andrew Burns, who has changed his name to Tiffany Scott, is demanding only female officers search him.

But three guards are defying orders to give him intimate body checks and have brought in their trade union to back them up.

The 25-year-old, who also calls himself Mitzababy, is not undergoing any treatment to transition to female.

“This week, he insisted on being strip-searched by female warders instead of males.

“The women gritted their teeth and did what they were told on the first day. But on the next shift, they refused point blank.

“Nobody blames them. Burns is creepy and quite clearly a man so there’s no reason why professional warders should have to go along with this fantasy.”"

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nightshade · 08/10/2017 10:39

Whether he is mentally ill by definition or not...I think it's clear to see that he's 'not right'.

BarbarianMum · 08/10/2017 10:22

I don't think that living in a room smeared with your own faeces or opening your own veins with your teeth can be described as an easy ride through anything tbh. If that's better than the average prison day then something is very wrong. I don't actually know enough about this individuals mental health to make a judgement to be honest, just pointing out that the idea that he couldn't be mentally ill cause if he was someone would have i) noticed and ii) done something about it is wrong.

AlternativeTentacle · 08/10/2017 10:06

Doubt he is disturbed, he is just a cunt. And playing the system to get a woman's fingers up his arse.

jennielou75 · 08/10/2017 10:00

Severe mental illness cannot be turned on and off. Yes there are many honestly ill people in prison but there are those that play the game. There are known methods for getting an easier ride through a sentence. Pretending to be mentally ill through dirty protests and self harm. Threatening suicide so you are placed in seclusion and monitored. Legal complaints about your treatment e.g One of the Lee Rigby killers. Now claiming to be trans gender so you get access to females, your own cell and possible transfer to a 'softer' women's prison.
Until I hear of some evidence of mental illness instead of a history of violence and crime I will be suspicious.

BarbarianMum · 08/10/2017 09:41

I dont agree. Prisons are chock a block full of mentally ill people and he just sounds like another one. Severe mental illness is no barrier to being kept in prison which then strangely makes the condition worse and worse.

TiesThatBindMe · 08/10/2017 05:14

He sounds like a crazed wild animal.

OlennasWimple · 08/10/2017 04:57

So the man is clearly disturbed and violent. It sounds like he isn't getting anywhere near the right kind of treatment/support.

But FFS, who told those poor female warders to strip search a dangerous, violent man who was suspected of secreting weapons? And how on earth did we get to the point that this was even allowed? A point where they felt obliged to grit their teeth and perform a search rather than immediately refuse? Some transactivists should be ashamed of themselves. This is all to do with a massive shift in the prevailing culture which disadvantages women. Absolutely disgraceful.

I hope that the warders' unions help them to kick up a huge stink

This ^^

SerendipityFelix · 08/10/2017 03:33

I’m sure he’s been pretty thoroughly psychiatrically assessed given his behaviour. I also suspect that the prison would happily have him transferred to a secure psychiatric hospital if they were able to! Which would lead us to conclude that he is not psychotic or unwell, but just a thoroughly unpleasant, violent, manipulative individual. I’m all for benefit of the doubt and tackling mental health stigma, but honestly from that report alone he does not sound vulnerable in the least. As a wonderful, comforting police officer said to me once (I’d been assaulted and was trying to justify why my attacker may have done it) “some people are just dicks, I’m afraid” Grin.

It does highlight the absurdity of trans ideology, though, in a way that will ‘peak trans’ people. So in a way, he’s unwittingly doing feminism a favour.

Ereshkigal · 08/10/2017 03:08

Couldn't two male-born people have decided to identify as female for the duration of his strip search?

That's exactly the kind of solution that is called for in these circumstances.

reflexfaith · 08/10/2017 01:31

I think psychopathic rather than psychotic, but yeah some very large muscular male prison guards should just identify as female for long enough to do the search
problem solved
sauce for the goose...Wink

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 08/10/2017 01:16

Brilliant, Captain. 👏

CaptainWarbeck · 08/10/2017 00:11

Couldn't two male-born people have decided to identify as female for the duration of his strip search?

If Tiffany can be female, so can they.

busyboysmum · 07/10/2017 23:32

I know. That must have been hard to do. Given his history.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/10/2017 23:07

Makes me very glad I don't have to work in a prison, and very grateful to those who do. It must be a horrendous job at times.

Indeed. And with all the shit (literal and metaphorical) dished out to them, they still saved this person's life.

retreatwhispering · 07/10/2017 20:22

So the man is clearly disturbed and violent. It sounds like he isn't getting anywhere near the right kind of treatment/support.

But FFS, who told those poor female warders to strip search a dangerous, violent man who was suspected of secreting weapons? And how on earth did we get to the point that this was even allowed? A point where they felt obliged to grit their teeth and perform a search rather than immediately refuse? Some transactivists should be ashamed of themselves. This is all to do with a massive shift in the prevailing culture which disadvantages women. Absolutely disgraceful.

I hope that the warders' unions help them to kick up a huge stink.

teaandakitkat · 07/10/2017 20:21

Makes me very glad I don't have to work in a prison, and very grateful to those who do. It must be a horrendous job at times.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/10/2017 18:59

Not in Broadmoor because he's in Scotland (amongst other things). Scotland has its own high security hospital at Carstairs. Even in England Broadmoor isn't the only high security psychiatric hospital. Ashworth and Rampton are the others.

NoCryLilSoftSoft · 07/10/2017 18:51

Good point terfing!

MissDreamGirl · 07/10/2017 18:48

It sounds like severe personality disorder, rather than symptoms of a mental illness - and a psych ward is very unlikely to be helpful

Abra1d · 07/10/2017 18:45

Reminds me of the IRA.

StealthPolarBear · 07/10/2017 18:44

I think he knows exactly what he's doing

Terfing · 07/10/2017 18:42

Hang on, isn't it illegal for women to show their breasts in public? Why was Tiffany allowed to do it? Hmm

ItsNachoCheese · 07/10/2017 18:41

This is an old article i read it a couple of months ago

Tiredemma · 07/10/2017 18:40

Why isn’t this man in Broadmoor?

To be considered for Broadmoor he would have to present as a grave and immediate danger to others. Sounds like he is troubled but not significantly risky to others.

he could do with a spell in a psychiatric bed though

DJBaggySmalls · 07/10/2017 18:36

This is a previous article about Burns. He isnt 'taking the piss out of transgender people', I doubt he even thinks about them. His conduct is not aimed at trans people but at the staff who have to deal with him - he regularly attacks women.

Burns has as much right to decide he is transgender as anyone else, since there are no laws preventing violent offenders from changing their gender or name.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-prisoner-andrew-10272096