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Hugh Hefner dies at 91

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Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 07:18

So seems as good a time as any to share this.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/26/gloria-steinem-bunny-tale-still-relevant-today

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greentea4me · 28/09/2017 08:23

Horrible old perv!

Ledkr · 28/09/2017 08:22

I came looking for this thread as I was feeling furious at the media coverage of him as some kind of bloody icon.
Dirty old pervert, glad he's gone.
Even as a young girl I found pictures of him in his dressing gown with some teen girl in her bloody knickers revolting.

Slartybartfast · 28/09/2017 08:22

Just weird the attitude towards him, the fawning i mean.

DavetheCat2001 · 28/09/2017 08:22

Lotta you're right! I should stop listening to blood pressure busting radio when I'm trying to get 2 small DC's ready for school! Grin

SweetGrapes · 28/09/2017 08:21

Yay! Where are the fireworks!
Am def celebrating when sep blatter and bernie ecclestone are gone as well.
The three of them give me the creeps.

Lottapianos · 28/09/2017 08:17

I think that's who Dave and i just heard in the radio. Her name was Nicola McLean

Slartybartfast · 28/09/2017 08:15

in the jungle?

Slartybartfast · 28/09/2017 08:15

Wasnt there a Im a celebrity model who lived on his estate? Shock

ICJump · 28/09/2017 08:14

Not sorry he is dead. Gross gross gross.

DavetheCat2001 · 28/09/2017 08:13

Yes Crowdo..I heard what she was saying with my own ears..couldn't give a shiny shit what she looked like. That's my evidence.

Lottapianos · 28/09/2017 08:13

Dave, I heard that woman on the radio too. He did a huge amount for women's rights apparently Hmm Her description of him 'watching the girls party' was grim

You and I need to stop listening to Nick Ferrari. Bad for the blood pressure Grin

Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 08:13

Get the feeling this is gonna be a dude as shit and bun righty thread, but I’ll just chime in and say that you have no idea if the private details of him and most of the women, seems unlikely that he’d be an insufferable cunt to them all/ not Help them and before it’s mentioned I’m quite sure I’m not Hugh Hefne

Actually we have proof of how they were treated in his clubs in the way of Gs's article and we know exactly how he feels about women because he talks about them. We know he sees them as pretty little play things and that's how he sees women. That's all you need to know isn't it?

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expatinscotland · 28/09/2017 08:10

Really not 'news' I wanted to digest over my coffee at 7am.

FrustratedTeddyLamp · 28/09/2017 08:09

Get the feeling this is gonna be a dude as shit and bun righty thread, but I’ll just chime in and say that you have no idea if the private details of him and most of the women, seems unlikely that he’d be an insufferable cunt to them all/ not Help them and before it’s mentioned I’m quite sure I’m not Hugh Hefner Wink

Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 08:05

THe evidence was what she said, was it not?

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DancesWithOtters · 28/09/2017 08:05

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Crowdo · 28/09/2017 08:03

DavetheCat2001, I hope you have evidence that the woman you refer to is unintelligent that is more than her being attractive and having had a picture of her taken with her top off?

Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 08:03

Ugh..just listened to some thick as pigshit page 3 'stunna' lording over how wonderful a man he was and how he 'did so much for women'. How she partied at the playboy Mansion and he was such a gentleman. How he 'loved to watch the girls party

I remember many many years ago when you went clubbing and there was always some man who was at least 20 years older than everyone else there sitting on his own nursing a drink and watching.

We never thought he was lovely. Hmm

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Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 08:00

From the NY times. Yes he invented feminism and the sexual revolution

Another feminist critic, Susan Brownmiller, debating Mr. Hefner on a television talk show, asserted, “The role that you have selected for women is degrading to women because you choose to see women as sex objects, not as full human beings.” She continued: “The day you’re willing to come out here with a cottontail attached to your rear end. …”

^Mr. Hefner responded in 1970 by ordering an article on the activists then called “women’s libbers.” In an internal memo, he wrote: “These chicks are our natural enemy. What I want is a devastating piece that takes the militant feminists apart. They are unalterably opposed to the romantic boy-girl society that Playboy promotes.”
The commissioned article, by Morton Hunt, ran with the headline “Up Against the Wall, Male Chauvinist Pig.” (The same issue contained an interview with William F. Buckley Jr., fiction by Isaac Bashevis Singer and an article by a prominent critic of the Vietnam War, Senator Vance Hartke of Indiana.)
Mr. Hefner said later that he was perplexed by feminists’ apparent rejection of the message he had set forth in the Playboy Philosophy. “We are in the process of acquiring a new moral maturity and honesty,” he wrote in one installment, “in which man’s body, mind and soul are in harmony rather than in conflict.” Of Americans’ fright of anything “unsuitable for children,” he said, “Instead of raising children in an adult world, with adult tastes, interests and opinions prevailing, we prefer to live much of our lives in a make-believe children’s world.^

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DavetheCat2001 · 28/09/2017 08:00

Ugh..just listened to some thick as pigshit page 3 'stunna' lording over how wonderful a man he was and how he 'did so much for women'. How she partied at the playboy Mansion and he was such a gentleman. How he 'loved to watch the girls party'

It just strikes up images of dirty old men in raincoats sitting in the park watching women and girls, to me. Gross.

i had to restrain myself from chucking the radio through the window.

Dirty old Misognyist finally kicks the bucket..shame.

Wheresmytaco · 28/09/2017 07:56

I remember hearing him once talk about how the women working at his mansion 'had a good life here'. It was exactly how zoo owners talk about zoos. Grim.

Maybe in his dotage he confused them with actual rabbits scribble. Hmm

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FrustratedTeddyLamp · 28/09/2017 07:55

Its funny I’ve seen these quotes already attributed to him a few times on forums:

In the 1950s and '60s, there were still states that outlawed birth control, so I started funding court cases to challenge that. At the same time, I helped sponsor the lower-court cases that eventually led to Roe v. Wade. We were the amicus curiae in Roe v. Wade. I was a feminist before there was such a thing as feminism. That's a part of history very few people know.

As well as some technological advances that were made by playboy in fields like image processing I find him somewhat fascinating

elQuintoConyo · 28/09/2017 07:50

Bleurgh.

AnyFucker · 28/09/2017 07:49

Good riddance to the old goat

Bananmanfan · 28/09/2017 07:49

I can't imagine the bbc celebrating a plantation owner or a ghetto warden in the same way.