Hugh Hefner dies at 91

Yeah the rabbit thing is odd. I do wonder how many of them genuinely enjoyed the playboy lifestyle, the dressing up and being paraded around for everyone to oggle, the sex parties etc and how many of them just got through it with gritted teeth because they felt that was what they had to do at the time.

From what I’ve read it sounds utterly grim. He was nothing more then a glorified pimp. Sick of people saying the women knew what they were signing up for and were happy to take the cash, I really don’t think they did. Not fully anyway.

I have never been able to understand why grown women would be dressed in rabbit ears and tails.

I did hear someone on the TV say he was all about sexual liberation for men. Sounds about right.

Well here's a fair savaging in the New York Times
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Yes I have been astounded at the lack of critical perspectives in the media, regarding his death. Seeing everyone on twitter and facebook fawning over him was disgusting (Kim K - honoured to work with him? Eugh). I hope more truth comes out about his treatment of the women he held in his home and that society sees him for what he was.

Just thought I's share the an obit from the New York Times which also summed him up nicely:

www.nytimes.com/2017/09/30/opinion/hugh-hefner.html?action=click&contentCollection=Business%20Day&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

That cartoon reminds me of the incident when the current President of the United States was in his 40s, watched a child go up an escalator and remarked how he would be fucking her in ten years' time. (Well, "dating" I think was the word he used but it's all the same to him).

I know Delete. Pencil cases, bags, stationery etc. We had no idea of the connotations, just thought it was another brand.

Just remembered I had a Playboy pencil case for school when I was about 13, as did many other girls in my year. I didn't fully understand Playboy and it's origins at that age (knew about the magazine but that's about it). Really shocking that such an adult brand was marketed at children. Really inappropriate. Like a form of brainwashing.

Give it 50 years or so and people will look back in horror at the Playboy Mansion and how a man was revered the world over for running a glorified brothel.

TBH I'm shocked that people today think it's acceptable. He literally lined up women in his room and had each of them have a 'go' on him whilst the rest watched or performed sex acts for him. As if that is a perfectly healthy and normal way to treat women. But hey as long as they're 'up for it'.

Had a discussion with a family member about it and all he could say to defend it was "the girls are consenting, they're happy to take the cash and Playboy is very successful" oh right so it doesn't matter how seedy, exploitative and immoral something is as long as it makes lots of money.

He has contributed to the problems we have today with porn and objectification of women and girls. This has had an effect on me and will probably effect my dd's as they grow up and I despise him for that.

'I wished I believed in hell' is such an apt quote.

His legacy to me will be a sexist scumbag.

Marvellous! Thanks Quentin. Love a bit of Julie

lotta the Julie Bindel version of his obituary for you
www.independent.co.uk/voices/hugh-hefner-dead-death-playboy-mansion-bunny-women-misogynist-predatory-enemy-a7972046.html

I was surprised she couldn't see the difference between attraction and objectifying.
Coincidentally posted about tgis on another thread. It surprised me how difficult many people find distinguishing attraction from be having like a sex pest....

That cartoon is horrific.

Someone put up a picture on my facebook feed with a picture of a man with a beard and turban, a crazed look on his face, with the caption "If I martyr myself there'll be 70 virgins in heaven waiting for me", next to a picture of Hefner saying "Better hurry up".

Don't honestly know what the most repellent part about that was. Instant cull.

As for Hefner, meh, he's dead. I don't ever celebrate anyone dying, as I'm sure it's sad for his loved ones, but having one less lecherous old pimp selling women's objectification in the world doesn't make me a bit sad.

The man was lovely to journalists and paid writers well, resulting in a good press.

You could argue that the prostitutes he procured were well paid for the industry, I suppose. For a pimp he seems to have been quite benign.

What an epitaph.

No, the child is spontaneously growing a rabbit tail and ears. Rather than offer ways to remove the unusual growths the (creepy) doctor approves and points out that these extra appendages will "useful" in a few years time when the girl has grown up. So she can become a playboy bunny.

I don't think i get it
The doctor turned the little girl into a bunny girl at her mother's request?!

I was going to post it on social media but was worried it might be actually illegal. But no, there it is, a horrible creepy paedo cartoon for auction on a "respectable" graphic art auction site.

This is a Playboy cartoon from 1964. Caption is the doctor telling the mother that someday this (her little girl sprouting rabbit ears and a tail) could turn out to be useful someday. There are no words. comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/dink-siegel-american-1910-2003-playboy-cartoon-illustration-page-138-march-1964-mixed-media-on-board-11-x-9-in/a/7017-93071.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

He was a pervert hiding in plain sight

All the stuff about supporting Roe vs Wade - well, pregnant bunnies don't make much money, do they....?

There was a women speaking about him on the radio today (R5), an independent journalist who had written for playboy and stayed at the mansion. She was insisting that objectification was not specifically an issue for women and was making the same point about attraction. About how men and women objectify each other as a part of attraction. I was surprised she couldn't see the difference between attraction and objectifying.

Nearly blew my top when I read this quote from the article Quentin posted

Women are sex objects. If women weren’t sex objects, there wouldn’t be another generation. It’s the attraction between the sexes that makes the world go ’round. That’s why women wear lipstick and short skirts.”

Just what?? How can anyone like this man? How is it okay to talk about women in this way?

I despair at the amount of people out there celebrating his life I really do. He was 'lucky' enough to live his life as the ultimate male fantasy at the expense of many many women and for some reason that is to be celebrated rather than condoned.

Imagine if he was a woman, he'd be called all sorts of horrible names.