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Horizon programme on transgender

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Pemba · 26/09/2017 19:46

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b096k5dm

BBC Two tonight (Tuesday) 9 pm. I wonder what take they'll have on it?

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PokemonDont · 26/09/2017 22:21

@BMacklin Nope. No downsides or side-effects whatsoever according to this programme. Infertility wasn't even mentioned as far as I could tell.

BMacklin · 26/09/2017 22:08

Seemed to show no downsides to surgery or hormones but I only caught the end. Did it show any during the rest of the programme?

PokemonDont · 26/09/2017 22:06

Yeah, the way you perceive rotating shapes means you should have a penis. Obviously Hmm

doctorcuntybollocks · 26/09/2017 22:03

I have terrible spatial awareness but I'm really good at maths.

FrancisCrawford · 26/09/2017 22:01

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SelmaAndJubjub · 26/09/2017 21:59

Not a surprise - the BBC's record on science-reporting is abysmal. They just don't care.

IndominusRex · 26/09/2017 21:45

Biologically????????

PokemonDont · 26/09/2017 21:42

This programme is making so many massive, unchallenged assumptions... little Luke's mother told them that "there are drugs you can take that mean you won't get periods", and obviously this 11-year-old kid thought that sounded great and everyone took this to mean they are a boy... but when I was 11 I was terrified of getting periods too! What little girl looks forward to periods?!

meltingmarshmallows · 26/09/2017 21:35

"It's important to take hormones so I can be physically female as well as socially".

Hmm
RaspberryBeret34 · 26/09/2017 21:34

I'm watching. A scientist in the Netherlands just scanned the brains of males and females when they did a spatial awareness problem and compared against trans men and women. The trans people showed similar results to the sex they wanted to be. A lot of confirmation bias! It reminds me a bit of one of the experiments Cordelia fine mentioned in the gender delusion. people tested more like their sex was expected to in empathy/spatial awareness tests when they were encouraged to identify themselves as their sex beforehand e.g. If they were told they were the female group and therefore were better at empathy, they tested better than if they were told they were students.

I wanted to ask her what the spectrum was in men and women and how the trans people's brains would compare with makes/females who were outside the accepted gender spectrum but happy with their male/female status.

TheFirstMrsDV · 26/09/2017 21:29

He never liked 'girly things' Hmm

Unihorn · 26/09/2017 21:25

It's irritating me quite a bit.

AssassinatedBeauty · 26/09/2017 21:10

"Increasingly, people are expressing their gender identity outside of the 'norms'"

This stuck out to me... people have been expressing themselves outside gender "norms" in many ways for many years. Without being trans.

SelmaAndJubjub · 26/09/2017 21:07

No outrage in social media about the Beeb LITERALLY KILLING trans people by showing it - suggests that it will toe the pro-trans line.

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DJBaggySmalls · 26/09/2017 20:56

''How does a person know their gender? Do they see themselves as male or female, or somewhere in between? More and more people around the world do not identify with the gender they were assigned to at birth.
Increasingly, people are expressing their gender identity outside of the 'norms', and the lines of gender are becoming more blurred than ever. This film explores what it actually means to be transgender, and what happens when a person transitions psychologically, physically and biologically.''

Rumandraisin1 · 26/09/2017 20:43

Can you watch it and report back? I don't think my blood pressure can take another 'isn't it wonderful giving all these drugs to gender non-conforming kids to correct them' programme?