Looks like 'transracial' might be a 'thing' after all

I don't knowPoisoned he looks more like a tomato to me, like the trainers though.
But seriously this is great news, I always dreamt of coming back as a white middle class man in my next life and now it seems I don't have to wait. Ah the possibilities are endless, my sense of entitlement is expanding as we speak

He looks more like a Jonathan or a Fuji to me poisonedivy, aren't Coxes more greenish-yellow?

This is my DH as the world perceives him now versus how he would like the world to see him

This is my DH as the world perceived him now versus how he would like the world to see him

I think you're all being very dismissive of all of these trans-isms and actually quite offensive. There are lots of people who believe themselves to be born in the wrongly sexed body.

I'm glad we're now seeing the emergence of people born in the wrongly raced and (dis)abled bodies. It gives me hope that one day people will take my DH's suffering seriously. At the moment people laugh at him but he was born in the wrong body but there's no support for him.

You see, he's an actual apple. A big red juicy apple but unfortunately he was born in the body of a slightly chubby, pasty English bloke. In the privacy of our own home he can freely express himself by dressing up as an big Cox and he's made contact online with a man in Kettering who is actually a grape but he can't express himself outside of the house. I hope that as society starts to recognise more and more trans conditions that my DH will be taken seriously and will be able to access treatment to transition to the big fat apple he actually is

However, one's racial self remains tethered to biology. Blackness, Whiteness, Asianness, Latinness, the whole rainbow of racial identification, is still construed as biologically inescapable and inevitable

I really don't understand this. Biologically I would have thought that my genes were more similar to those of a black-skinned woman or woman of any other 'racial' group than they are different. Plus, although my phenotype is 'white' genetically I'm not solely of white stock and I have 'different coloured' relatives. Race plays a significant and confusing part in my family history that has influenced our migration and wealth (or lack thereof). I've yet to process quite what this means. Friends who are black or brown skinned often say that there is no biological difference between us (except for a sexual one in cases where they have xy chromosomes) and that race is a biological illusion. The real issues thay say are skin colour and the barriers that this presents for them (including historical ones). Some see cultural issues as important - i.e. the colonisation of their cultures and their erosion or eradication, but they and others raise their eyebrows at the idea of 'black culture' because they say this is a complete myth. For others, there is no connection between who they are and where their ancestors may have come from based on skin colour, so they feel no ties to nation or culture (some see this as part of an older oppression if they came from a slave background).

can I now claim myself as a lesbian by using the ridiculous stereotypes of dungarees, short hair and owning a Tatu CD - rather than wanting to sleep with women

Gemma, the Queer Community is way ahead of you, here! I stopped calling myself queer when it got co-opted by people who had only ever been, or wanted to be, in a relationship with a member of the opposite sex, but they had a primary-coloured short-back and sides (if female) or long pastel-coloured hair (if male) so they were totes sexual outlaws, and way more oppressed than actualfax lesbians or bi women.

Natural extension, it'll be interesting to see if this ideology is embraced quite as readily as the gender mythology.

Mwah ah aaahh..

In this course, we will use the discourse of transgenderism to build an alternate vocabulary of race.

And why not?

It's interesting how the only appropriation is of oppressed people. No-one can appropriate upwards.

I too think the black community may have something to say about this.

On the other hand, no one seems to care if they get stuffed any more than if women do.

It's a horrible, sinister practice. Appropriating women, black people, disabled people.

It's oppression on acid.

Surely there will be trans sexuality (rather than sex) too then?
As all of these trans things seem to be based on stereotypes (women like pink, men like blue, black people have big hair) can I now claim myself as a lesbian by using the ridiculous stereotypes of dungarees, short hair and owning a Tatu CD - rather than wanting to sleep with women.

And trans -age presumably too. So if a 50 year old man says he's a 6 year old girl that must be true as well

Snort. I follow a number of otherwise excellent black feminists who are all very pro trans, and I've thought for a while that they'll probably regret it when transracial becomes a thing.

Thanks jellies

Wonder how it's linked to Munchausens or body dysmorphia. I remember (again, around 20 years or so) the debate around people who wanted limbs removed etc, or tried to self-amputate on a railway track etc. Is that the same phenomenon, do you think? Awful!

Transdisablism is not new but I think the name is. I remember a documentary about it from more than 20 years ago. Not really surprising that they are now politicising. Like transgender people they want it to be a natural human state rather than a pathology and seem to genuinely feel that the need an amputation to be their true self.

It was here: itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/womens-liberation-radio-news/id1108738581?mt=2&i=1000392542811

was listening to a great podcast on this topic, talking about the course that the OP mentioned, and it said that transdisablism is an emerging thing. The lunacy!

Do you have a link to that?

And the trans species
Don't leave out those in the dog suits you bigots

Don't forget the trans abled
Although I can't understand why they are trans abled rather than trans disabled
No matter. They still need services. Blue badge, mobility car etc and of course they should go straight to the front of the queue

I was listening to a great podcast on this topic, talking about the course that the OP mentioned, and it said that transdisablism is an emerging thing. The lunacy!

If transgenderism is real, so is transracialism.

From reading the right wing news, apparently us 'terfs' are 'loony lefties' ... lizards who are biting our own tail.

And from what I've heard, trans activists have branded us as Nazis.

Looks like no one cares about girls' women's rights Worrying times.

Can't imagine that BLM will be too impressed

I think this is a logical extension of the tendency I've noticed in some of the more out there-trans activists in suddenly "discovering" - after living their entire lives as white men, with white parents, white grandparents, etc - a non-white ancestor and then spending a lot of time and space celebrating their "biracial" identity as well as the fact that their totes a woman, etc. This is essentially applying online teflon to themselves, as it means they get to accuse everyone else (including actual BAME people) of racism as well as sexism and transphobia.