I am Janice Turner's No 1 fan - another excellent article

No, I'm afraid I can't.
Can you?

Please tell me what a woman is?

Dr Webberley has saved the sanity and probably the lives of hundreds of adult transsexuals by prescribing low doses of HRT to "tide them over" while they are stuck in the year-or-more waiting lists for appointments at NHS gender clinics.
She is one of very few GPs in the UK with any specialist knowledge of this complex condition, but is still extremely cautious -- and is even more so when dealing with teenagers.
She made it clear in the earlier Times interview that she prescribed HRT to one 12 year-old, who was an exceptional case not, as Janice Turner would have you believe that she hands out Progynova like Smarties to any twelve year old who asks for it!,

StrangeAdventure could you please define what a woman is?

It's a shame so many of those who have commented here haven't fact-checked the article -- and even more of a shame that Janice turner didn't fact-check it herself!

James Caspian is perfectly within his rights to research this topic if he wants to: I don't think anyone has prevented him from doing so. But it is at least the third time he has tried to persuade the university to approve a thesis on this subject. The main stumbling block for the previous two is that he simply couldn't find enough "de-transitioners" to make it a valid piece of scientific research!

That's not terribly surprising, really, given the psychiatric hoops that transsexuals have to jump through before they get HRT, and the compulsory "Real Life Test" (at least a year, usually two or more) living in their new gender but with the wrong "bits" before they get referred for surgery. There can't be many that make it all the way through the painful, expensive and embarrassing 4-5 year process only to change their minds afterwards!

Of the tiny number who do "detransition", it is likely that a significant proportion do so because of the constant barrage of transphobia to which they are subjected -- whipped up by columnists such as Janice Turner herself and by organisations such as the so-called "Christian Concern".

It may be significant that the university didn't specify where they expected the hate mail to come from. Ms Turner implied that it was from trans-activists, but I suspect it is more likely to come from the anti-trans faction. They are much more vociferous than the pro-trans activists, and would certainly not like an academic study to reveal the immense harm that they do!

Still back to fact-checking she claims that "Trans activists are lobbying hard to change an NHS policy document called the “memorandum of understanding”: they want to extend a ban on gay “conversion therapy” to include gender identity." But that is simply wrong! Why would they? It already does include gender identity!

And the MoU is not just an NHS document: as well as NHS England and NHS Scotland, it also carries the signatures of all the major professional bodies - more than a dozen of them - that represent psychiatrists, counsellors, and doctors. They agreed that conversion therapy of homosexuals was unethical back in 2014, and extended the MoU to include gender identity nearly a year ago.

And in July this year General Synod of the Church of England supported all these professional organisations, by calling on the Government to make conversion therapy illegal.

Please don't take my word for it: just google "Memorandum of understanding" "conversion therapy".

it's a pity st paul's has been dragged into this. it has a reputation for girls with issues these days.

It is a pity but I don't know what you mean with your second sentence here.

Thanks, I found the Webberley interview. She sounds delusionally rational or rationally delusional- not sure how best to phrase it.

I am so grateful to Janice for sticking her neck out . I have pretty much stopped reading the Guardian and read the Times far more because they seem to be the only paper tackling this. They do tend to get the best journalists.

it's a pity st paul's has been dragged into this. it has a reputation for girls with issues these days.
I don't know what is going on with British teens these days.
this sort of nonsense isn't accepted in cultural groups where they have better things to worry about, like getting a job.

Interview with Webberley was earlier this week, not today.

I bought this, and it says there is an interview with Helen Webberly - and I just realised I don't have the magazine section! I presume the interview is in there?
I cannot find a number to phone to get my magazine and as DC asleep, I cannot go back to shop to ask.
Annoyed

But yes, good article, although I think I had heard of the Bath ethics issue before, cannot remember where.

Bath Spa don't come out of that looking good. Although I don't imagine they would have been the only university to go that route. Another great article from Janice.

Love Robert Webb

Love Janice Turner

It's a phrase that gets used too much IMHO but that decision about the university research is truly chilling

One trans friend of theirs had a small gang of friends who were also now identifying as trans or non binary or this that and the other. They remarked that one clearly had diagnosed mental health issues and was clutching at the trans label for a solution. I was impressed that they'd identified all this for themselves already. But they also said they wouldn't say too much about it at school / uni because of the bigot label.

I also have personal experience of this both within an educational setting and with an acquaintance.

I find the idea of anorexia having a similar function very interesting too.

Wow that's great from Robert Webb, supporting Lily Maynard, who is fabulous.

Here’s Lily’s blog where she tells the story of her own daughter’s period of transition. She uses the word cult. Strong but true I fear.

4thwavenow.com/2016/12/17/a-mums-voyage-through-transtopia-helps-her-daughter-desist/amp/

There is some tweet activity between Robert Webb and a gender critical activist called Lily Maynard. Webb has just released a book so is engaging with lots of gender-centric banter on twitter.

Best bits here:

twitter.com/arobertwebb/status/911545666425548805

twitter.com/lilylilymaynard/status/911541860488933381

twitter.com/lilylilymaynard/status/911543053462245376

thecatfromjapan Sat 23-Sep-17 10:55:45
Is that a derail, I sense?

No, I was not attempting to derail the thread. A school was known for having a lot of female students who are anorexic, now it has a lot of female students who identify as trans. That has not triggered any kind of enquiry. It doesnt seem to have created any kind of lightbulb moment for the school or anyone else.

Gosh, if the blog in Stopmakingsenses post is accurate, I am even more concerned about just how much political traction this has got. Surely anything destined for use in schools must be scrutinised for equality impact? How can that scenario about toilets not have rung massive alarm bells? How have these people (whoever they are) got government bodies in such a terrified state that they churn out this stuff so unthinkingly?

Excellent article. Thanks for posting OP.

Another great article from Janice. So good to see The Times reporting on this.

I'm staggered to see that a university would deem ground-breaking research to be unacceptable because it might be 'politically incorrect'. WTAF? This is academic research we are talking about, not someone using the wrong pronoun in a 'safe space'.

Once again, I am wondering at just who is behind all this, as they are frighteningly powerful.

Great article. Never thought I'd subscribe to the Times, but keen to support Janice. Brave lady for speaking up.

What do you think of this article?

www.metronews.ca/news/halifax/2017/08/14/a-real-shame-company-house-closing-after-months-of-harassment-says-owner.html

Fantastic article!
One of the reasons that St Paul's school is so accepting is because teachers have been 'taught' about transgender issues by groups run by activists. Look at the training offered to schools - GIREs is an example. Buried in some good work on prejudice and acceptance are the usual incorrect statistics about suicide and a number of clear statements articulating why puberty blockers should start at the beginning of puberty - so 10 year olds who have started their periods? The long term outcomes for these children will be catastrophic. The age of consent is 16 but not if you want to change your sex?

Teachers dare not challenge this misinformation as to do so will have been nailed as 'transphobic'. And if any school safeguarding officer dares refer a 12 year old on puberty blockers to social services - well the social workers are likely to have been trained by the same activist groups!

It is unthinkable (but true) that a school's transgender policy appears to outweigh their safeguarding policy - unheard of when a school can fail an Ofsted for safeguarding failings .

Found this blog discussing the difficulties of reversing the trans process and the difficulties in discussing regrets.

thirdwaytrans.com