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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Apparently I shouldn't use the term SEX

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cafeaulaitpourvous · 22/09/2017 14:45

Says DD (30).

It is politically correct to say gender. I told her sex is the biological term for the physical body (dna etc) and gender was a social construct

Nope... apparently we should just say gender

Hmm
OP posts:
ponderingprobably · 22/09/2017 15:52

Isn't there an element of homophobia in some factions promoting trans ideology? Some are reporting people, in some circles, are now preferring to be seen as trans rather than homosexual.

cafeaulaitpourvous · 22/09/2017 15:46

Forgot to mention DD is a lesbian. I have tried to talk to her and express my concerns but she says I am being transphobic and unfair.

She has lots of MTT friends and they are all such hard work. Real narcissists...who are not very nice to her.

I have tried reasoning with her .... she understands patriarchy but doesn’t seem to be able to see what is happening. She doesn’t see what’s wrong with self identification and accepts trans women with penises are in women’s safe spaces. And I would’ve thought she would hold the idea of safe spaces dear as she was sexually assaulted a few years ago.

OP posts:
ponderingprobably · 22/09/2017 15:40

If someone describes someone as having a 'Gendery' body, is that objectification?

Terrylene · 22/09/2017 15:24

Genderal intercourse?

Anniegetyourgun · 22/09/2017 15:17

'Allo darlin'. Fancy coming upstairs for a spot of gender? Fnarr fnarr.

Norland · 22/09/2017 15:15

Gender is actually for inanimate objects.

A table in French would be 'la table' and therefore gender is feminine. The government is 'le gouvernement' and is of a male gender.

All living things are of male or female sex, as determined by chromosomes. It's not currently possible to have a sex-change, as that would require - for say male-to-female - swapping out all the Y-chromosomes, for X-chromosomes in every cell. I seem to recall reading that the legal definition of what sex somebody is, was covered by chromosomes.

However the OP's daughter is 30, so she is right, 'cos everybody under 30 is always right (I certainly was) and letting facts get in the way of a sweeping statement is to be avoided (pro tem and forever)

Disclaimer : If you're a right-wing, fundamentalist American-Baptist and reading this, you'll understand that 'sex' is a dirty word and should be avoided at all cost and gender sounds so much more intelligent, along with using the noun 'impact' in place of the verb 'affect' or using " " double quotes instead of ' ' single as more is always better right?

EBearhug · 22/09/2017 14:59

We can't use sex at work, at least in written (types) stuff. It blocks it unless you change it to gender.

It still lets me swear on instant messenger, though (I had to explain what FFS meant to a German colleague.)

Mrskeats · 22/09/2017 14:55

Sex and gender are two different concepts
Sex=Biology
Gender=Social Construct that varies between times/cultures etc
Political Correctness does not come into it.
This sort of stuff makes me go nuts.

AngelsSins · 22/09/2017 14:53

I wonder how schools will teach biology in this "brave new world"? How will David Attenborough voice animal documentaries? Will he describe lions as those with manes, and those without? It's so painfully stupid!

MephistophelesApprentice · 22/09/2017 14:52

The twisting of language in the name of ideology makes me incredibly angry. When people deny the impact of manipulating meaning in the name of whatever cause they espouse, or claim that it's necessary to repair some linguistic injustice, it's always evidence of an authoritarian bullying attitude that seeks to deny the rights of whoever they've decided is undeserving of real justice.

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 22/09/2017 14:49

Sod that. I remember the one time I visited the job centre I had a look at their careers list, and saw the job 'chicken sexer' who's job it is to separate the male chicks from the female chicks.

Animals have sex, we are animals, we have sex. Nothing politically incorrect about reality.

Terrylene · 22/09/2017 14:48

Makes you wonder how they will ever manage to make babies..............Hmm

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