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Apparently I shouldn't use the term SEX

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cafeaulaitpourvous · 22/09/2017 14:45

Says DD (30).

It is politically correct to say gender. I told her sex is the biological term for the physical body (dna etc) and gender was a social construct

Nope... apparently we should just say gender

Hmm
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DamsonGin · 02/10/2017 18:03

I know someone who worked as a chicken sexer. (not sure if I can add anything intelligent to the conversation)

Ttbb · 02/10/2017 18:00

You are correct. Sex refers to presence or Y chromosome while gender is a social construct.

TheFallenMadonna · 02/10/2017 17:49

My 13yo, who is not prudish, gave me a little lecture last weekend about gender vs sex (psychology vs biology she said...). I lectured her back on gender as a social construct, and also (just to confuse things) showed her several scientific papers that use gender to mean biological sex.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2017 17:46

Its scientifically correct. Reality is reality.

cafeaulaitpourvous · 02/10/2017 17:44

She isn’t prudish - she says the term sex isn’t PC and I should use the word gender.....

She isn’t prudish but she is brainwashed in my opinion

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user1487175389 · 02/10/2017 17:31

Your daughter sounds a bit prudish.

TheFallenMadonna · 02/10/2017 17:30

Testes is the plural of testis. Not testicle, which is an alternative name for testis.

dontslouchdarling · 02/10/2017 17:25

I had to complete a survey at work today. It asked me for my "gender identity" and then for my "gender assigned at birth". There wasn't an option to reply "I'M FEMALE WHICH IS MY SEX YOU FUCKING IDIOTS" nor was there a free text box where I could have explained why I objected to the question so ticked "prefer not to say" Angry

StinkPickle · 02/10/2017 09:27

Oh for fucks sake.

I"m 31 and know it is SEX and that gender is a social construct. Babies have a sex, they do not have a gender.

Lancelottie · 01/10/2017 22:29

How big does a breast need to be to count for that survey, and would yer average moob count?

My (XY male) uncle had breast cancer, so the term doesn't seem to be exclusively female.

Norland · 01/10/2017 21:46

CancellyMcChequeface
I filled out a medical form recently.........'this question is for people with testicles.'......

Plural of testicle is testes.

No wonder the country is going to the dogs (there's a ball-licking reference there somewhere)

Camomila · 01/10/2017 19:42

If it makes anyone feel better I am going to try and only use sex from now on in any formal writing form now on.
I am also only going to ask 'are you going to find the sex out?' to pregnant friends.
Just to redress the balance on the side of us young ones (I'm 29)

Sparkyduchess · 01/10/2017 18:52

I had this conversation at work on Friday - im responsible for ensuring that we are progressing strategically as we've planned, and part of that is a commitment to increase the number of women in the organisation. I was asked to provide some stats related to gender, so I duly provided stats with 'sex' as the column header. It caused a ridiculous amount of discussion!

CancellyMcChequeface · 01/10/2017 18:37

I filled out a medical form recently. It asked for 'gender identity' rather than sex but then later on had questions stating 'this question is for people with breasts' and 'this question is for people with testicles.' I guess that's what happens when asking for someone's biological sex is made somehow impolite.

hackmum · 01/10/2017 10:55

spaghetti: looking forward to job adverts for people to "assign gender" to chickens. Grin

millionsofpeaches · 01/10/2017 07:40

I'm very much looking forward to teaching sex differentiation during the genetics topic that is coming up on our curriculum. I foresee quite a lot of discussion and questioning from the students, as we have a fair few trans students at school, although all are FTT. It's like its become socially unacceptable to be a lesbian, at least at my school. Sad.

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Missymoo100 · 30/09/2017 23:47

Helena Blavatsky theosophical society stated the theosophical society is to;
To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour.
To encourage the study of Comparative Religion, Philosophy, and Science.
To investigate the unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in man.

She was a very influential occultist

Missymoo100 · 30/09/2017 23:42

If you look into theosophy which says it studies all religions, the works of madam Blavatsky she In a nut shell says that religion got it wrong worshiping god, that it was the devil or lucifer that loves humans, he gave humans knowledge of right and wrong in garden of Eden, he is the lightbearer.
She even called her publishing company lucifers trust, later Lucia trust. Building an image unto the beast and social transformation is said to be indoctrination to accepting the antichrist.

Missymoo100 · 30/09/2017 22:50

Since 1856, the name Baphomet has been associated with a "Sabbatic Goat" image drawn by Eliphas Levi[3] which contains binary elements representing the "sum total of the universe" (e.g. male and female, good and evil, etc.).[4] On one hand, Lévi's intention was to symbolize his concept of "the equilibium of the opposites" that was essential to his magnetistic notion of the Astral Light; on the other hand, the Baphomet represents a heretical tradition that should result in a perfect social order, a notion that can only be understood against the background of Lévi's socialist background "Lévi was successful".[5]
Baphomet is depicted by Lévi as the symbol of a revolutionary heretical tradition that would soon lead to the "emancipation of humanity" and the establishment of a perfect social order.[53]

This is from wikipedia.
There is some belief by occultist that male and female need to fuse to achieve god like status. It's linked to socialism and marxism being a way of implementing it.

ArbitraryName · 30/09/2017 22:42

The Fox News clip is wonderful, if only for the bit where he mentions Canada and then clarifies, 'the country directly to the north'. Oh joy!

I couldn't watch the woman who didn't understand that intersex and transgender aren't the same thing.

Missymoo100 · 30/09/2017 22:39

Ha no we're not snails, that made me laugh,
But for anyone interested, there are several doctrines that relate to male and female becoming "one" in order to live an eternal life and become "as god", see theosophy, the gnostics esp gnostic of thomas, (preaches that man must become woman and woman become man) the Kabbala and its tree of life fuses male/female at the top.
The bible stated god made man and woman in his own image, the devil wanted man to be in his image... the devil is consider both male and female, like baphomet.

BeatriceBeaudelaire · 30/09/2017 22:31

It’s not politically correct .... they mean different throngs. One is biology one is a social construct.

whoputthecatout · 30/09/2017 22:30

Did this person state what those reasons were Missymoo?

Lancelottie · 30/09/2017 22:28

Given that we aren't snails, I think a hermaphrodite society would be pretty limited in duration.

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