Woman attacked by transactivists at speakers corner - part deux

Sentimental Im a 44 year old childfree by choice woman. Ive never really wanted children but was 100% sure of it by the time i was 21. I asked about sterilisation a few times until my early 30s and was refused.

But i dont mind discussing issues around pregnancy. Too many women are expected to bung themselves full of hormonal contraceptives . There is a thread currently running on AIBU where it has become apparent that the DH is trying to bully his wife into having a 5th child. As a childfree by choice woman reproductive coercion has always been one of my worst fears.

Due to not being sterilised when i was younger i then developed an irrational fear of becoming pregnant. I just do not want children and know i would never cope with motherhood Its just not for me. I dont want to derail so wont bang on but women do absolutely need safe spaces where they can discuss things like this and other subjects.

I also would like to apologize to Miranda for referring to him as she on past threads. I didnt realize he preferred the male pronoun.

Watched his vids and respect him a lot. He has gorgeous cats too.

some of the articles on this are the worst journalism i have ever seen in my life.

Just realised we've had a thread with 1000 posts, and now well into our second thread, and absolutely no-one has come along to tell us how transphobic we are. Not even anyone to say "Well, every group has it's bad apples."

I really hope this incident has been the tipping point for so many women.

Well, a gender critical article (New Statesman) explaining why TERF is a term of abuse, and the "TERF is a slur" website both come up on the front page of google for me, and the New Stateman article is the top hit using DuckDuck, so all is not lost.

Does anyone here actually run one of the gender critical websites/blogs? Can you put TERF (however offensive that might be) in the metadata or something so that it comes up in searches?

Maybe we need to start a blog which does use the phrase a lot.

Just thinking....the unfortunate side effect of the media thinking we are called the 'TERFs' (besides this being a slur) is that anyone wondering 'what do they stand for?' and googling 'TERF' will only come up with transactivist-written pages saying that TERFs are evil creatures who want to destroy all trans people etc. Any pages that actually clearly explain what we think don't use the word TERF in them. :-(

Sorry to lower the tone there ^

I'm not sure what the original intention of this cartoon was, but it sure is appropriate this week.

I emailed him and, while I disagree with his views on other issues, he did seem to genuinely want to hear and represent women's concerns on this issue.

What things will look like after the GRA passes 😬

So is ANYONE going to stand up for women then?

Welll...there is David Davis, Monmouth MP:
www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/15442950.YOUR_MP_WRITES__David_Davies__MP_for_Monmouth/

I struggle with the way the left is handling these identity and oppression issues too. It's really messy

That's the common mode of thinking on the left. Ethnic/religious minorities and transgender people are more oppressed than women, therefore their needs have higher priority.

As someone who has always considered myself on the left, sadly, I think that's true (although not just confined to the left) - oh, and ethnic/religious minorities means the men from ethnic/religious minorities ie consulting with the male leaders in the community/mosque etc and taking their views and interests as being reflective of the community.

Women's Equality Party
it was considered 'politically incorrect' to raise this issue (due to the link with British Pakistani men).

I know nothing about WEP so I just looked at their website. The latest news: Sarah Champion "was right to resign". "Focusing only on the actions of men in specific communities is racist."

That's the common mode of thinking on the left. Ethnic/religious minorities and transgender people are more oppressed than women, therefore their needs have higher priority.

So glad that the message is getting out there albeit slowly. No reaction from fb friends to my posting of the first news report on speakers corner. My partner was chatting to dog walkers last night and trans came up in conversation. They may not know arguments or the jargon, but everyone of them was adamant that trans are not actually women. I find this comforting at least because twitter makes me feel that the lunatics are more numerous than they really are. It feels like there is a madness pushing this agenda along.

So is ANYONE going to stand up for women then?

The Women's Equality Party are vehemently pro trans.

I wonder if they have been asked for their opinion about this latest violence.

But also how on earth can we afford all this treatment on the NHS? It's on its knees as it is.

Well there's a surprise. NOT.

I have rarely seen a damper squib than the WEP. They take missing the point and make it an olympic sport

What have the Women's Equality Party said about this?

"Some of those trying to highlight this problem also reported that they were silenced because it was considered 'politically incorrect' to raise this issue (due to the link with British Pakistani men). "

As ever, mostly those trying to highlight the problem, were women.

Just like with PIE in the seventies.

Just like now with trans.