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Woman attacked by transactivists at speakers corner - part deux

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BeyondNoone · 18/09/2017 00:16

Here's the link to thread one
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3033126-London-meeting-to-discuss-Gender-Identity-attacked-by-transactivists

I'm just going to sleep, if someone else can add the news links for me please? Thanks :)

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Albadross · 21/09/2017 08:04

Sorry I'm still desperately catching up so just briefly another parallel - I had anorexia but mine wasn't caused by dysmorphia, it was caused by ASD (combination of restricted food choices, ritual and wanting to minimise my female curves because of previous negative attention). I was still treated as mentally ill and not indulged in my desire to control my food intake in this way. It doesn't actually matter what the cause is here since there's no medicine for it, it's the effect.

Datun · 21/09/2017 07:28

busyboysmum

I also would like to know the response to that notice. Because this time is not women telling them what to do.

badbadhusky · 21/09/2017 07:11

(wrong thread, although the manifesto is linked above)

badbadhusky · 21/09/2017 07:10

I thought you were all being unkind about that manifesto. However, having read it, it's fucking bonkers. I don't even know where to begin, but it's very me, me, me - greedy for resources, education (medical training ffs!) and medical procedures which there are whole other populations with serious medical needs for similar procedures that aren't being met. The resources of our NHS are finite and I have no problem with trained medics gate-keeping.

CeeBeeBee · 21/09/2017 00:26

I wonder whether they will get abuse for being transphobic, busymum. What responses had it had on twitter?

busyboysmum · 21/09/2017 00:18

Just wanted to share this just seen on Twitter

Woman attacked by transactivists at speakers corner - part deux
WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 21/09/2017 00:05

T - trans-centric
E - egomania
R - results in
F - fallibility

T - trans-centricity
E - enables
R - righteous
F - Fallacy (phallusy) !

busyboysmum · 20/09/2017 23:40

Hilarious. Am sharing on Twitter.

Datun · 20/09/2017 23:28

Has everyone seen this?

It should go some way to exposing the insanity behind all this.

Posted by the same group responsible for last week's violence.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3039248-TRANS-HEALTH-MANIFESTO

FactsAreNotMean · 20/09/2017 22:31

I like Zoloh's, but I think WitchBitch's version fits better in places where terf would be used IYSWIM?

WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/09/2017 22:17

Zoloh I like your definition

WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/09/2017 22:16

T - thoughtful
E - educating
R - responsible
F - female

Zoloh · 20/09/2017 22:14

Truth, Evidence, Reality, Facts

FactsAreNotMean · 20/09/2017 22:09

TERF

Truth Explaining Realistic Female
Teenagers educated on rational facts
Teaching Everyone about Real Females

cromeyellow0 · 20/09/2017 21:46

Riffing on earlier ideas:

Save Our SeXX (SOS)
Sex Not Gender (SNoG)
Women Against Gender (WAG) / People Against Gender (PAG)

Datun · 20/09/2017 21:45

That's all penises,so not just trans. So not transphobic.

Datun · 20/09/2017 21:44

PEWS? Penis excluding women's spaces.

WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/09/2017 21:30

We need to come up with an alternative meaning for TERF. Claim it back but with a positive slant. Been trying to think of one all day, the cogs are still whirring on that.

My brain is also melted from following this thread since last weds night. It's certainly been a very educational learning curve and I now feel familiar enough with most of the debate to start talking to others about it without fear of judgement.

YesVeryGoodVeryStrong · 20/09/2017 21:24

I would love it if they tried to say to the police/a court "but they were a terf so it was justified" and to just get a blank look.

WitchBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 20/09/2017 21:21

Have NCd in honour of this thread.

crispandcheesesandwichplease · 20/09/2017 21:16

I too agree to avoiding the word 'feminist' in any future attempts at educating people in general about the concerns discussed on this thread. Tis sad but true that for many people the word has such negative connotations. We need as wide an audience as possible.

I do think that 'female' is a good alternative and appropriate given the debate.

Datun · 20/09/2017 21:13

NoMoreNotToday

As far as I know feminists have done a sterling job of identifying the attackers. And it is now under investigation.

MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 20/09/2017 21:09

Well that would make for a very illuminating court case.

I have no doubt the case would claim provocation, 'being a terf' and 'actual violence' and argue this is justified for four people smashing a woman in the face and gripping her throat while trying to steal and in the end smashing her camera.

Since the tweets and facebook screen shots undeniably prove this was intent to be violent, and celebrating the violence afterwards, in the context of people who wear t shirts with pictures of blood stains and the words 'punch a terf' (and worse) and see no problem with this....

....a judge isn't going to have a tricky time applying British law.

PencilsInSpace · 20/09/2017 20:39

Pages behind, just here to mark my place for now and to say thank you to all the wise, logical and articulate posters here and on other threads Flowers

FactsAreNotMean · 20/09/2017 20:35

I think I spotted the attacker on Twitter looking for a lawyer - maybe one of the other tweeters can confirm (I'm on a TERF block list so couldn't see them directly but somebody had done a retweet)