Woman attacked by transactivists at speakers corner - part deux

I was just so relieved he was actually found guilty.
Even though there were multiple witnesses and video, even though he had posted beforehand about fucking up terfs, it still didn't seem to me like a foregone conclusion.

Cheers pencils.

It was certainly the beginning of an awakening.

Turns out THERE IS A FUCKING DEBATE after all.

And three fucking great cheers for that.

Thank you, women of courage.

Saw this on Linda Bellos' FB page just now.

www.kingsleynapley.co.uk/insights/blogs/regulatory-blog/transphobic-comments-give-rise-to-private-prosecution

Some lawyer! Has she even looked at the background before pontificating?

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Courage calls to courage.

These women are sheroes, and I include the young woman Pencils pointed out.

Although living through this turbulence is scary, I know we are making a difference, and we are making history. I am proud of us all.

Thanks to all the women who saw what was coming before I did, fought for women’s rights when no one else thought there was anything to fight for, and spoke up when they were lone voices being silenced.

Thank you pencils x

I just want to raise a glass to Venice who started something huge, to Maria who is nails and to all the other brilliant women who have made such a difference and continue to fight for women's rights and safeguarding of children and vulnerable adults.

Turns out THERE IS A FUCKING DEBATE after all.

Thanks for bumping pencils.

Do you know what is fucking tragic? It's that if you look back through this thread, even just the last few posts from last year, there are women writing to their MPs, saying 'women are going to be raped and sexually abused if you put men in women's prisons' and lo it fucking came to pass didn't it?

That makes me so fucking It didn't need to happen. We fucking told them. We're telling them now about GG. Who's next to be sacrificed on the altar of fucking woke politicians?

Agreed Pencils. I'm glad you said this. That young lady has been on my mind quite a lot; more so lately because it's a year since it happened.

I Hope you're ok - wherever and whoever you are. We may have huge fundamental differences of opinion on this but no woman gained any satisfaction from seeing the footage of your 'friend' turning on you like that. You didn't deserve that and your friend clearly doesn't deserve you.

Very well put, Pencils 👍

nice one pencils...

I want to raise a glass to the young woman who was aggressively shoved and intimidated by the TRA who was supposed to be on the same side as her.

Wherever she is today, I hope she is happy and safe and pursuing her goals. I don't care if she would still disagree with me on everything. She was up for dialogue and she went above and beyond in trying to calm down a horrible situation, only to be met with more male aggression.

and [beer] for that young woman.

Yep that attack was a turning point. We can also thank Tara Wood for boosting gender critical feminism.

indeed

Bump!

This is the second of two threads which were originally in chat so destined to disappear after 3 months. I asked for both to be moved to FWR and they were, but the first one seems to have disappeared anyway, which is a shame.

I just want to raise a glass to Venice who started something huge, to Maria who is nails and to all the other brilliant women who have made such a difference and continue to fight for women's rights and safeguarding of children and vulnerable adults.

Turns out THERE IS A FUCKING DEBATE after all.

Under the Tories, progress is being rolled back for women, disabled people, LGBT people and BAME communities.

It is the Tories proposing self ID, and it was also the Tories who (finally) pushed through same sex marriage was it not? I do not understand how so many people seem to completely miss that transideology in itself is inherently homophobic. They either miss it, or see it and don't care.

Labour is the party of equality. We believe that no-one should be left behind.

Are female people included in this? As its females who will be left behind in all of this rubbish.

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My reply to "George" to which I still haven't received a reply:

Thanks George

So what's the gender audit on the Gender Recognition Bill in so far as it affects biologically born women then please?

My take is that it will be so easy for men to claim they feel like they are a woman and then invade women's spaces.

I do think that women will be treated far worse than they are today. Just in general.

If you can't talk about the disadvantage that your sex affords you, that disadvantage becomes accepted.

Trans-women may compete against each other in sport as 'women', and actual women won't be able to compete, or if they do are guaranteed a bottom of the table place. In many sports women don't get the recognition they deserve already, and so it will become an even more male dominated arena than it is now.

There will be regular stories in the press about 'women' attacking other women. Rape and sexual assault will be recorded as being committed by far more females than ever before. And although a lot of people will know that they are men, if it is never reported as such, there will just be an assumption that female crime is on the up, particularly sexually violent crime.

We know that already in prisons there is a disproportionate amount of rapists claiming to be women so they can be considered to be moved to women's prisons where they will have access to the very people their crimes are against.

And pointing these things out will be deleted in below the line comments, online, everywhere, because it will be considered a hate crime.

If enough people are legally recorded as women, who are actually men, health statistics will change. The incidences of female health problems will go down and the funding will be cut.

In fact, statistics generally will be skewed. To women's disadvantage.

Giving men the legal status of women, based on gender identity, means that sex based protections no longer exist.

You will not be able to sue for sex discrimination on the basis of the fact that you are a woman.

Say your company has a diversity quota. Six men and six women on the board. That could be six men and six transwomen. And their diversity quota will be filled.

All the above is happening now but with this new legislation no surgery will be needed, no diagnosis by a doctor, no hormones need be taken. 95% of trans women are in fact fully intact men.

Please respond. I need to know how the party I voted for last election is handling this very important issue. I don't want to be fobbed off with platitudes.

What a load of rubbish that letter is, busyboysmum! Even worse than mine from Diane Abbott! It is chillingly like Newspeak - lies repeated often enough start to sound like truth.

This was my original letter:

I am writing to you Jeremy as a champion of women's rights. I think you are strong and principled and must be able to clearly see the dangers of this proposed Gender Recognition Bill. I know that you previously have recognised the dangers that women face in their daily lives in public places. How much more dangerous would our lives become if any man with a fully functioning penis who chooses to identify as a woman to gain access to our changing rooms, toilets, shelters, prisons, hospital wards.

This is what you have previously stated:

"It is unacceptable that many women and girls adapt their daily lives in order to avoid being harassed on the street, public transport, and in other public places from the park to the supermarket. This could include taking longer routes to work, having self-imposed curfews or avoiding certain means of transport."

I just don't think that any man with an intact penis should be allowed in these places. How are women ever to feel safe again in these vulnerable situations?

It is never going to be the nice men who abuse this legislation is it? It is going to be the rapists, the abusers, the voyeurs. And we all know that these people exist in our society and that they know full well how to take advantage of any loopholes in the law. This would give full bearded men with intact penises who have not taken any hormones the right to have access to any women only spaces just by self declaring that he feels like a woman. How will we ever feel safe again? How will Muslim women in particular be able to take part in public life?

I appeal to you to see the issues that we women are worrying about. We are over 50% of the population. Are we not to be heard?

I look forward to hearing from you with a reply

It didn't answer a single one of my points. No one.