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Guilty Feminist: minefields

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LondonPainter · 12/09/2017 11:29

I usually listen to the Guilty Feminist podcast and enjoy it as they have an interesting diversity of guests. However, this week's episode...

The trans woman on the panel was talking about pussy hats with the argument about their being offensive due to not all women having vaginas. There was some attempt by others to argue the case for the hats but it sounded very much like someone who'd grown up with male privilege telling the women how they were doing feminism wrong, with no attempt to compromise or understand their reasons.

Later there was a discussion on gender-neutral toilets and it would have been good, for balance, to have a voice on the panel speaking for those women who quite like to have their own toilets.

Did anyone else listen?

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Cherrypi · 12/09/2017 13:44

Yes that episode irritated me too. She was silencing them.

cordeliaflynne · 12/09/2017 13:40

I generally really enjoy their podcast but I am uncomfortable with their wholehearted embracing of the trans party line. The last two or three minutes of episode 60, Male Privilege make interesting listening. The trans woman guest interrupts the co host mid saying something and we never get to hear what it is. A practical demonstration of male privilege in action.

Cherrypi · 12/09/2017 12:56

I though this was a great episode. It really addressed the elephants in the room about trans activism. I'm glad they were finally discussing it. Deborah talking about editing out mentions of female biology and how it was troubling her. Though somehow that was all Germaine Greer's fault somehow according to Reubs. I found it a really interesting listen.

Datun · 12/09/2017 12:53

I saw the guilty feminists some time ago, and whilst I thought they were very funny, they just stopped short of getting it, as far as I'm concerned.

The trans ideology is the line in the sand for me.

Twelvety · 12/09/2017 12:36

You beat me to it OP! I was going to post something, but it would have been very rambly. Yes Deborah kept coming back to the bit about why shouldn't women wear something which they have (and which was directly related to Trump and the reason for marching) which I was pleased about, but I don't think Reubs was really listening.

And when they discussed about FGM and whether it should be called something different so as to not exclude trans women (Hmm) Leyla did say, but it is because they are a woman/because of their biology that FGM happens, so yes it should be called that. And again they were like 'yes, ok' and then kind of ignored it in the next sentence.

I haven't listened to the full episode yet though, only about half.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 12/09/2017 11:40

Haven't listened to that episode but the GFs are very pro-trans ideology. Put me off them as they are otherwise funny and interesting