Calling all London Spartaci!!!!

Slimthistime Interestingly my mother too, it must be a common conflation. We had a chat last night for the first time about transactivismissue. She wasn't buying into transgender anyway but was incensed by the time she saw a pic of Danielle Moscato.

This is eye opening. I'm off to find that 'what can I do about this' thread and write to my MP and MSP. I'm joining Twitter as well so I can feel a bit more connected to all that's going on. There are some brave women here.

Transcript of Miranda Yardley's speech from last night.

mirandayardley.com/en/this-is-an-all-out-political-war-the-gender-recognition-act-and-beyond/

speaking of confusion, I have told my mum about this

She is classic example of someone in a muddle because she said "Isn't this bound to happen when people try to push gender neutral things".

I'm not sure I have the energy to explain.

yetanotherusernameAgain

Brilliant footage. Thanks.

If that is indeed snowcamo, naming their employer on their GFM isn't very clever!

Weirdly, that person's since deleted pictures (attached to earlier posts) show a coat that looks very snow-camo-ish too...

Typical, by the time I finished typing someone has done a better job! Annotated version online, with relevant parts in slow motion and enlarged:

The poster also think they've identified Snow Camo. If it is that person, they've got a GoFundMe page for voice surgery. Only £5 raised so far. I won't be contributing...

I've been poring over the film clip and there's a person dressed in very distinctive clothing who launches themselves at Maria and starts hitting her. Looked at in isolation it could be argued they may have thought Maria was the aggressor and they were trying to 'rescue' the person Maria is restraining but if you look at the whole clip I don't think the violence of the attack is justified.

The person is wearing a black and white patterned hooded top (it looks like snow camouflage so I'll call the person 'Snow Camo') and distinctive leggings. They first appear at 0:31 - from behind the group of TRAs standing on the left they push through and run to the right, arms flailing. The camera pans left so you can't see what happens.

At 0:39 there seems to be an altercation going on - is that Maria with someone trying to take her camera? The camera pans to the right but people's attention is drawn to the scuffle so the camera pans back to the left.

At 0:44 Snow Camo is back in shot but not intervening. It's not clear who is in the scuffle but Snow Camo is on the periphery and not participating. The scuffling continues and Maria and the person she's restraining end up moving out into the open to the right of the crowd. They don't appear to be hitting each other and no one is attempting to separate them, until 1:02 when Snow Camo runs at Maria and hits her, twice I think, and pulls the person away from Maria.

That person runs out of the crowd (left) at 1:06 and Snow Camo runs off left at 1:07. At 1:17 it looks like Snow Camo runs out of the park gate onto the pavement with at least one other person.

If anyone who was filming last night has a good shot of Snow Camo's face I think it would be worthwhile to pass it to the police.

Not my son btw - but when I'm out and about. You never know.

And I wouldn't attend an MRA conference either and accuse them of killing women.

The desire of the transactivists was to provoke and to strike. They also wanted to curb free speech under the spurious ideology that feminism kills trans people. They don't care who they throw under the bus to reach their aim either. Misogyny in action.

I'm in fear a man might turn physically violent every day of my life.

That's another disgrace. I note that the BBC and other news outlets are happy to post a story about 'research' that proves women have lower sex drives but not a story about actual violence against women.

Yeah, mugging is always a self defence crime 🙄
Amnesty, ffs. 😡

The self-defence claim might be more plausible if it wasn't preceded by people going 'wanna fuck up terfs!' and followed by 'yay! someone's punched a terf!'
They're not very smart.

"As with everything they'll claim she somehow started it, their lack of critical thinking skills is beyond infuriating."

A certain Mary Ann Penniman, who works for Amnesty, has already done that on twitter, wowl, and said "she taunted and abused trans friends of mine. They were in fear she might turn physically violent".

So clearly mugging and whacking Maria was done in self-defence, amiright? I cannot roll my eyes back far enough for this.

Gosh what a night! I was there and saw the attack.

We had a chat with the police after leaving the venue. They said they spent a long time trying to identify the attackers at speakers corner but couldn't and that's why they made no arrests. You can actually see a couple of them running away just at the end of the video before the camera gets covered by a placard. The police said they would be interested in any footage or photos from which they can make an ID and would pursue arrests if possible.

Aside from the aggro and violence it was a great night. Lovely to meet Datun, Empress and Cunt as well as lots of other brilliant women. It was a shame the talks were cut short. I'm really pissed off Stonewall pulled out, especially Bex Stinson who's been blathering for ages on Twitter about creating a dialogue and inviting people to speak face to face.

They've been tweeted to both since yesterday, sea. Nothing but tumbleweeds. :(

If there are videos someone should send to the BBC and the police

Kimlek

If you type self identification into the advanced search box, you will get dozens of threats discussing this. Here is one.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2986751-Changing-gender-without-any-medical-care-advice-opinion-just-saying-Im-a-woman-and-it-being-so

The entire room was a sea of mostly middle-aged women. With some younger women. One had turned up on her pushbike, another was wearing a tweed suit

I think it's important to not forget this^ Despite the huge attempts to shut this down, despite the threatened and actual violence this still went ahead successfully.

I also find it interesting that TRAs are only willing to air their views when there is no opposition.

Once this is brought into the light, and once people on general, not just a niche section of society see what is going on trans-activism will lose steam, and there will be a lot of law suits from mutilated people.

Can we have a thread debating the potential change to the law please and how it may effect women and girls please. I can't find one on here. Needs to have a title to appeal to the masses. I'm clueless about this but don't want to be. I want to understand the opinions & views of 'terfs' and transgender etc.

*I completely agree with other people that this was deliberately organised with violence as the goal. The website calling to arms, has pre-printed pages on what to do if arrested. I think they would love to have been arrested, to be honest.

And, I can easily believe that there were some men, who knew nothing about the trans-ideology, but just wanted to beat up women.

This is a hate filled, misogynistic campaign. These men are not addressing or attacking the other men who are violent towards them. They hate women. Claiming feminists are responsible for the deaths of trans-women is as ludicrous as it is false.

But these men really don't need an excuse. All the fairytales in the world aren't necessary for them to justify their violence. It's an end in itself*

I have not finished the whole thread, but I realy wanted to draw attention tot his because it so echoes what I have been saying here for nearly a year now (can't believe I've been here this long).

This has been my experience with the activist side of the transcult. It is a facade for misogyny. Many activists don't even try to look like women and they are not AGPs - they are simply misogynists. This isn't casual misogyny or latent misogyny. It is blatant woman hatred in a way that is as inherent, blatant and organised as the racism of the supremicists in Charlottesville. This cannot be ignored. They are looking for excuses for violence and to inflict their power over us. They hate us and they love their dicks.

"What was amazing though was the chance to meet other work and talk in the pub afterwards. There were some great people there and it was lovely to make some new friends and feel part of a community"

So a great success in that regard.

The website calling to arms, has pre-printed pages on what to do if arrested. I think they would love to have been arrested, to be honest.

And then presumably want to be locked up in a women's goal.