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Calling all London Spartaci!!!!

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CuntAmongstThePigeons · 11/09/2017 23:19

For anyone interested there is a debate about the new legislation and gender this Wednesday evening in South London

Miranda Yardley and the Julia Long are speakers. I will definitely be attending so hope to see a few of you there.

www.list.co.uk/event/20974934-what-is-the-meaning-of-gender-the-gender-recognition-act-and-beyond/

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Miffer · 17/09/2017 01:49

I always wondered what pronouns Miranda prefers. I always use her/she.

Datun · 17/09/2017 01:48

If that's the young woman I think it is, she's an idiot. When I arrived at the venue she was standing outside demanding to be let in. Facing the doors. The doors were glass and the doorman was inside refusing her entry.

She and her buddy took up the whole of the doorstep. I tapped her on the shoulder to get past. Literally tapped, like in an 'excuse me' way.

She rounded on me and screeched get your hands off me, I've already be manhandled. I actually started to laugh. It was like a Catherine Tate skit.

After the talk was over, she must have told me to fuck off at least half a dozen times purely because I attempted to talk to her.

I had the overwhelming urge to tell her to go to her room and that she was grounded for a week.

Rumandraisin1 · 17/09/2017 01:35

Looks like the organisers of Wednesday's violence are now making counter-claims of assault. Strangely, although it was all recorded, all of the footage is 'useless', unlike the multiple recordings showing the violence of their activists (and the now deleted posts of this being planned).

www.facebook.com/ActionForTransHealthLondon/

PricklyBall · 17/09/2017 00:03

Very moving and heartfelt video - I now want to give Miranda a big hug! He looks like he needs it (the funny thing is Miranda is someone I would have no problem with calling she/her - Miranda, if you ever read this, I'm happy to call you whatever you want).

MichelGarnier · 16/09/2017 23:53

Thanks Beyond.

BeyondNoone · 16/09/2017 23:37

Transsexual and he/him yes :)

MichelGarnier · 16/09/2017 22:59

Can I ask, does Miranda refer to himself as transgender or transsexual? And uses male pronouns? I haven't come across him before.

MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 16/09/2017 22:25

Well the interviewer makes a complete twat of herself there, she's completely incoherent.

Well done Germaine.

TheWeeWitch · 16/09/2017 22:16

Good old Germaine, "fer fucks sake!"

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 16/09/2017 21:25

Watching it on youtube brought me to this. Germaine Greer on the issue

Kirsty Wark is a terrible interviewer.

Badweekjustgotworse · 16/09/2017 21:23

God I love germaine Greer, she's great in that video, bugger it indeed!

user1496587010 · 16/09/2017 20:57

That video with Germaine Greer is sad. What she's been robbed of because she won't say a man is a woman. Watching the interviewer (who's name escapes me) tie herself up in knots trying to use the right pronouns to describe a man having surgery to be a 'woman.' Because said person has to be described as a he initially for surgery to be needed but using he might be misgendering....

Elendon · 16/09/2017 11:34

I also think it's well worth watching this.

MissHavishamsleftdaffodil · 16/09/2017 11:33

Very, very well said Miranda.

Elendon · 16/09/2017 11:19

Loved Miranda's video.

Watching it on youtube brought me to this. Germaine Greer on the issue.

BeyondNoone · 16/09/2017 10:41

Created a YouTube account just to comment on Mir's video. And I subscribed to The Times earlier because of Janice Turner's column Grin

Anlaf · 16/09/2017 10:35

Great video from Miranda

And Miranda makes the connection: those violent men are as much as anything like bloody football holligans,: goading, will go to great lengths to hunt their "opponents", immediate to use violence (see that young fella shove his fellow female protestor when she displeased him)

Datun · 16/09/2017 08:44

That video is excellent. His despair is palpable.

The content is undeniable, but what comes across so tangibly is his sincerity. He's utterly believable. If I had never heard of this issue but merely watched that video, I would believe what he was saying implicitly. There is no side, no agenda.

Thanks Miranda.

NYConcreteJungle · 16/09/2017 08:42

Wow - that's very clear now what's going on - and yes, that guy in the pony tail threatening the women from the TRA side that went to try and break it up - Christ - everything screams to stay away from that guy.
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ErrolTheDragon · 16/09/2017 08:41

I just got the link for Janice Turners column in the times - someone has started another thread for it so I'll drop mine here as its too good to waste:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-battle-over-gender-has-turned-bloody-2wpkmnqhh?shareToken=b6ffe471a65b6e6b619974572d2c0340

SophoclesTheFox · 16/09/2017 08:35

Miranda must get so exhausted by all of this. And what a headfuck for him (Miranda does not require people to use female pronouns) that people who purport to be defending rights for transwomen beat up people who just want to hear him and others speak.

theaveragewife · 16/09/2017 08:05

Great video

OlennasWimple · 15/09/2017 23:07

Miranda Yardley has just posted about yesterday

Datun · 15/09/2017 21:46

Here is a compilation of the online celebration of the male violence on Wednesday.

m.youtube.com/watch?t=47s&v=Nm1VFpubdDM&oref=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FcMx16xhrKf%3Famp%3D1&has_verified=1&client=mv-google&layout=mobile

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 15/09/2017 19:47

I've liked Sister Outrider on facebook, and that article.

I've not had much come through TRA-wise - and there's an ex-colleague of mine that's much more likely to post feminist memes (of the sensible kind - and he's a gay bloke) - so I'll see if it's just that the people around me are silently gender critical as I hope and I'll not have to lose any family members as friends.

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