Calling all London Spartaci!!!!

Stonewall pulled out for vague reasons. Sisters Uncut & LGBT Lewisham, despite repeated invitations to attend & give their own viewpoints, preferred the bullying & intimidation route. I hope they're all proud of themselves for doing their bit to silence women.

People have called the police because of the evil TERF bullies. One of whom is, may I remind you, transgender. As far as I know, there have never been any instances of physical violence or even threats of physical violence from TERFs towards transpeople. The same cannot be said of transwomen towards TERFs. And yet, they're apparently scared. What they're actually doing it turning the violence of their own feelings outwards and projecting it onto women. They cannot believe that women don't feel the same wish to do violence towards them that they feel towards us.

I just wish their young intersectional female supporters could see that.

Nice.....

I've seen some stupid shit on twitter - people saying "did you know your friend had "liked" this event", or similar. Because god forbid you breathe the same air as an evil TERF.

Am so sick of this intimidation and thought-policing.

There are some really aggressive unpleasant people on there. One person seemed to be seeing if he had any friends in common with the supporters of the event and then drawing their attention to the fact that their friend was supporting the event by tagging them. In the hope that it would mess up their friendship I guess but what a personal attack that must feel like.

I was really hoping to go but it'd take me 2 hours, two trains and a bus each way...

I hope it goes ahead. It is very disturbing that you can't talk about important women's rights without threats of violence.

Don't let them crush you.

2 of the speakers were from Stonewall; one was "Stonewall's head of trans inclusion Bex Stinson" who is a trans woman.

From press articles Bex Stinson sounds like a complete , right-on pain but seems perfectly capable of holding her own ground.

MacaroonMama, no, it's not cowardly at all, male violence is scary.

But funnily enough, I wasn't going to go as we had theatre tickets, but now I am going and so is my mum. I will not let bullies silence me and I want to show my support.

I've got the number off that notice and will give them a call tomorrow.

I do hope it won't be a waste of time with transactivists yelling transwomen are women, making idiots of themselves and ruining it for everyone else.

For fuck's sake it's a venue in South East London. It's not Carnegie Hall. Every single time they shut a debate down with threats of violence, they are simply shooting themselves in the foot. Counter-productive idiocy.

If anyone does go, should we wear a Mumsnet badge or something? I am def too scared to go alone! Maybe a 'pussy hat'? Or just a red rose in the buttonhole...

Why can we not even talk about it???!!! It is 1984 crossed with The Handmaid's Tale. Bloody hell.

Aha, thank you JynOdan. I am still not sure if I will go now - I actually feel it might not be very pleasant and/or safe. Is that cowardly?

The library pulled out the last minute (ie. tonight) because of the trans activist harassment. The organisers are working very hard to find a new venue and will post here if there's one secured.

Hi Datun I am not sure - have just looked at the links BetsyM00 posted above - there is a lot of very nasty debate on there. A lot of trying to shut down women's voices. I may call the library tomorrow am and ask? If I do, I will PM you. But actually if the fb chat was anything to go by, I think it will be horrible and bitter with no room for debate. I also am not sure where else it could be held. Can't imagine Goldsmiths would host it now.

The original venue, New Cross Library. There will be someone there to direct people to the new venue.

Hmm it would be helpful if someone could share over pm etc when they know. I am unlikely to be there on time.

MacaroonMama

So do you have to go there to find out where the talk is being held?

Have just seen this. I want to go! What was New Cross Library is now called New Cross Learning; I think the library as run by Lewisham Borough was closed but is now volunteer-led. It is in the main New Cross Rd, nr Iceland. I will try and go if DH can have the children. (That makes me sound soooo feminist )

What library? I was planning to go.

JynOdan

Can you give me a reference to that? What library?

Yes, I believe it's still going ahead. If you go to the library, they'll let you know where to go

Is it being moved to a new venue?

Goldsmiths LBGTQ+ Society were planning a protest at the venue:
www.facebook.com/events/594447757611932/.

After being on the receiving end of threatening calls & emails all day, New Cross Learning have cancelled the event on health and safety grounds:
www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1440433356024100&id=191155194285262

Miranda Yardley says it's going ahead

I learn it has been cancelled.