Calling all London Spartaci!!!!

Have just dipped into Morgan's blog, which has a very tedious piece on being stared at on the tube by a small child, because a man in makeup is OMG so revolutionary, nobody has ever seen it before OMG.

(Morgan had a lipsticked mouth applied on the side of the mouth, not actually on the mouth.)

These babies, who think middle-aged women are so dull, clearly don't realise that we have seen it all before and then some. Men in makeup in the 70s and 80s? Standard.

And female people in short hair and makeup: even more standard. < yawn >

But we all just don't understand how Morgan is just SO INTERESTING, and has SUCH NEW, EDGY THINGS TO SAY.

This kerfuffle is entirely in keeping with the agenda. The transactivists know that as soon as the general public start to really understand the wider issues, their tide of support will dwindle and die. It is imperative that they shut down all debate, stifle thought and discussion and cry TERF TERF TERF!!! at every opportunity.

I hope tonight can go ahead safely and that someone can report on, live tweet or stream what is discussed.

Wow, Morgan Potts is one very confused young woman.

She has written a hilarious diatribe to Sisters Uncut on her website saying that it's really mean that they exclude her when she's actually a woman. Despite the fact that she identifies as a transman

I think you should be terfing. I am furious.

My tweet output is certainly up

You could not make this up, you really couldn't!

I know I shouldn't be, but I am so fucking angry about this. Genuine transgender people should be supporting feminists with this issue, listening to our concerns, and making us feel safe.

This is classic male-on-female bullying. It needs to stop!

if, not when

FTT as far as I can tell.

Fucking depressing that this person hates women so much, when she is female

Wow, that Morgan's a nasty piece of work, isn't he? I wonder if that's his real name.

Yes, this is the kind of thing on twitter

twitter.com/mrgnptts/status/907736635718107136

This is from the organiser's Facebook page

So the TAs threaten a venue to the extent that it doesn't feel it's safe to allow the event to go ahead, and yet TERFs are supposedly the violent ones?
Cog diss all round.

I wish I could go but I'm too far away. This makes me so angry!! Male violence in another guise!! 😠😠

qumquat

I spoke to the organiser. She assures me it's going ahead. I'll post on here later when I know the details.

My understanding was it had been completely cancelled. I am local and was going to go. I wish New Cross Learning could at least be honest about why it has been cancelled. Their statement says it was nothing to do with 'outside pressures'. (I completely understand why they felt they had to cancel for their own safety)

RaininSummer

In my experience, this no-platforming violence is played out online. It's rarely translated to attendance at the venue.

Having said that, I'm now feeling nervous.

I am too far away from London but am following with interest. I hope it goes ahead but please stay safe and watch your backs. It is disgusting that discussion is threatened and shut down in this way.

I've just spoken to the woman who is organising it. It is going ahead.

I'm going to check in with her later to get the definite venue. And I'll post that here. If there is trouble, it will be moved to a private venue.

She has been harassed, threatened, doxxed. She works for an independent retail outlet and transactivists are determined to get her fired. They are leaving dozens of reviews on the site. Her bosses are now seriously considering their position, as it is effecting their business.

From what I can tell, she genuinely wants a civil discussion. And has been shocked, but hardened, by the backlash.

I'd like to go if this is still going ahead anywhere.

Sisters Uncut

They were against this? I had thought they'd not be taken in by all this - especially given where the violent threats are coming from. But now I look and they're for 'self-defined women' now.

Sigh.

Does anyone have any idea whether it's going ahead, yet? I will phone after 9 AM.

Transmediawatch - who have an agenda of raising the profile of transpeople within the media and are one of the reasons that trans issues are getting such enormous press coverage at the moment - were also invited to speak. They pulled out on the grounds that they didn't feel Dr Long and Miranda Yardley were qualified to comment on trans issues

Fuck sake. The FB comments are unbelievable. So angry.

Ok, not shutting up. Do you think another thread would help raise awareness of it? I'm sure many do not realise how far this has gone?

Lurking journos, why don't you pick up this story?

Wow...just wow.

Those comments are unfuckingbelievable.

In a debate about what gender means, we won't let you debate until you agree transwomen are women.

Sadly Empress I think they are proud of themselves.