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Once again what is considered an ordinary and mundane task when done by a woman is madecsuper dpectacular by a man...

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randomuntrainedcuntowner · 11/09/2017 07:09

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Millions of single mothers do their daughters hair every day. But here a single father shows us that we have been doing it all wrong.

Men have hands. There is no reason they cannot style hair. But he has become an internet sensation.

It's like when a woman cooks she is a cook, but when a man does it he is a chef.

A woman who makes clothes is a seamstress, a man who does it is a fashion designer.

I am willing to be told iabu or that I am overthinking and bitter and twisted. But was wondering what others thought?

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OlennasWimple · 11/09/2017 17:37

if a woman announced she was a single mother on X factor she would get judgement, not sympathy - see Kym Marsh, for example

I've seen both applause and raised eyebrows at dads leaving work for a sick parent, but only ever plaudits for dads taking time off for sports day type events

thedancingbear · 11/09/2017 16:30

Man who leaves a business meeting if their child is ill = superhero dad

I can assure you that my lived experience is that this is not the case. The stock response is 'can't your wife sort it out?'

Manclife · 11/09/2017 16:27

Love it! There's constant complaints of dad's/men being crap and it's all as a result of patriarchy. Then when a guy goes against social norms he's slated by those wanting change. oh and before you shout 'but women do it all the time he's not special!' Men need praise for doing it till the balance tips. The same way women are praised for doing traditionally male roles or breaking other social norms on MN.

BitOutOfPractice · 11/09/2017 15:48

Fail Blush

Woman who leaves a business meeting if their child is ill = not committed enough to the job

Man who leaves a business meeting if their child is ill = superhero dad

BitOutOfPractice · 11/09/2017 15:47

Woman who leaves a business meeting if their child is ill = not committed enough to the job

Woman who leaves a business meeting if their child is ill = superhero dad

Notreallyarsed · 11/09/2017 15:34

It winds me up when people make comments about what DP does with the kids, mostly because it's the fact he's male that makes them comment. Why shouldn't he do DDs hair, or do . I do it, he does it, but it only ever gets commented on when he does which winds both of us up.

randomuntrainedcuntowner · 11/09/2017 15:27

I know oh - if a woman announced she was a single mother on X factor she would get judgement, not sympathy.

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OhHolyFuck · 11/09/2017 08:31

Did you see the single dad on X factor? He was a single dad dontcha know, a dad AND he was single? Just him and his daughter being all singly daddy, he just wants a better life for his daughter because it's just them two...

They must have said it 6 times in his audition, like him and probably a few hundred/thousand woman auditioning too

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 11/09/2017 08:15

I don't think it's a case of him being spectacular for doing his daughter's hair, but sticking two fingers up at societal norms.

Surely men need to be encouraged to do this so it becomes normal?

A bit like "WOW! Isn't Anita Roddick* wonderful..." in the 80s.

(* I think that was her name)

Gileswithachainsaw · 11/09/2017 08:11

Yanbu.

No wonder there are so many lazy husband threads. They want a sodding parade for doing what everyone else does daily.

So kids not have their hair brushed on contact days?

Do Drs get pulled put of surgery because they need to go so the kids hair despite daddy being home?

No.

Normal people get on with it.

Why are expectations so low it needs a Facebook page when a dad does a kids hair.

Dp does dds hair all the time

user1477249785 · 11/09/2017 08:11

YOu aren't overthinking. Men parenting is somehow worthy of an award. For women, it's just their job isn't it?

I was always struck when mine were younger that if I were with them and they were fussing on the tube I would get evil glares no matter how hard I tried to placate them. DH reported that he would get sympathetic smiles and offers of help for the same behavior. There's definitely one standard for women and another for men.

RubyWinterstorm · 11/09/2017 08:09

Stella McCartney, Ronit Zilkha, DOnatella etc are all fashion designers, not hear anyone call them "seamstress"

RubyWinterstorm · 11/09/2017 08:08

maybe you are overthinking?

A cook is not the same as a chef. A chef is employed by a restaurant (MF), a cook is employed by an individual/family (in the olden days anyway). Lots of cooks were female I guess. But i don't think chef is in any way better than cook?

Also, about the hair, as far as I know (may be different where you live), hair styling ... dads are often not quite as hands on with this as some mums.

I am not interested in this guy and his hair styling, but I don't find it offensive that others are.

randomuntrainedcuntowner · 11/09/2017 08:04

Maybe I am just very pregnant and hormonal, and having to deal with a defiant 6 year old. If only somewhere was there to bring out the bunting when I finally got her to sit still enough to get her hair into a pony this morning... 😣

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