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GP specialising in transgenderism in children censured

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Gingernaut · 10/09/2017 18:35

Monmouthshire GP, Helen Webberley has been been restricted by the GMC from treating transgender patients unsupervised until it has looked into reports that she treated a 12 year old and two 15 year olds contrary to NHS advice.

This. Is. A. Medical. Professional. Angry

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enoughisenough12 · 12/09/2017 23:04

Yes JigglyTuff Miranda Yardley has been commenting on Mermaid's use of statistics :

twitter.com/TerrorizerMir/status/800330102689189888

JigglyTuff · 12/09/2017 22:50

They pit the fear of god into parents by telling them their children will kill themselves if they don't. Have you ever read anything that Mermaids has on its website?

Datun · 12/09/2017 17:55

Neither is the idea of "wait and see" suggested. Perhaps this is a reflection of how many in society today must act immediately on everything.

You might have something there. I wonder if that comes from the teenagers themselves?

So many things are immediate. At the touch of a button. Food, games, porn, chat, music, films. The lot.

tubasinthemoonlight · 12/09/2017 17:50

The problem is that therapy is not routinely offered. Children are immediately referred to services which look at how dysphoric they are rather than exploring other possibilities.

Neither is the idea of "wait and see" suggested. Perhaps this is a reflection of how many in society today must act immediately on everything.

Datun · 11/09/2017 10:40

I read that Reddit exchange with the doctor at the time.

She couldn't actually define gender, only in relation to expression and identity. She called other people bigots. She was utterly convinced that what she was doing was right, despite admitting that the long-term use of puberty blockers was untested.

It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. You halt puberty, so the person never develops the critical thinking necessary to question it, then go on to cross sex hormones.

I've heard many times that medical treatment is the only thing that works, and therapy is not effective. But firstly I haven't heard of any funding, research or studies on any kind of scale. In fact it appears to be discouraged. And secondly, it's suggested that the onset of puberty, although dreaded, can actually reconcile the person to their sex.

Maybe it's something to do with the brain developing at the same time, or the fact that puberty is nowhere near as horrendous as they first thought.

BellaGoth · 11/09/2017 07:18

Sorry, I don't mean that someone might sneak up and give him drugs! I mean that a child could be "treated" for liking pink.

BellaGoth · 11/09/2017 07:17

I have a 4 year old son who's favourite colour is pink and wants a princess dress for Christmas.

The thought that someone could give him drugs because of this... Label him as trans... Makes me feel physically sick.

He's a child who likes pink. He doesn't know, or care, that girls are "supposed" to like dresses and boys are not. How can someone call such a young child trans? I really can't express how angry this makes me.

Natsku · 11/09/2017 07:07

We went to watch a Famous Five play in the summer and George wants to be a boy because they do more exciting things

That's exactly why I wanted to be a boy when I was in primary school, thank fuck no one transitioned me as I'm very glad now that I'm not a boy.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 11/09/2017 07:05

Or they could just be working out what poppers do?

Exactly! And no. Nowadays they'd insist George was trans Angry.

Natsku · 11/09/2017 07:04

She gave examples of children as young as 6 MONTHS, yes you read that right, looking in a mirror and displaying behaviour that suggests they are unhappy with their body and want to be the opposite sex

What the actual fuck?! Babies don't know what sex they are. How the hell did she qualify as a GP in the first place if she's that stupid?!

BigGreenOlives · 11/09/2017 07:00

The scary thing is that teens read about doctors who do not follow proper procedure & think the drugs are safe.

greendale17 · 11/09/2017 06:54

Good

PeteAndManu · 11/09/2017 06:53

Or they could just be working out what poppers do? We went to watch a Famous Five play in the summer and George wants to be a boy because they do more exciting things. It wouldn't be written that way now.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 11/09/2017 06:44

Did yours also open the poppers on the bottoms of their vests, Pete? Because that's one of the examples Jazz Jennings cites, undoing their vests at 15 months old to make them look like dresses.

PeteAndManu · 11/09/2017 06:38

Datum hoped it wasn't that. At that age mine were playing with any toys they fancied and working out how to use the potty. It is ad.

ALittleBitOfButter · 11/09/2017 06:16

There's a comment in the Daily Mail about her, thus:

This is the woman who took part in a Reddit 'Ask Me Anything' post related to her work, during which she gave examples of children as young as 6 MONTHS, yes you read that right, looking in a mirror and displaying behaviour that suggests they are unhappy with their body and want to be the opposite sex. You could not make it up. This woman is dangerous and needs to be stopped now.

Datun · 10/09/2017 23:30

PeteAndManu

If a three-year-old boy likes playing with girls' toys, puts a tea towel on his head like long hair, and says he'd like to be a girl, parents are now wondering whether he may be trans.

Instead of realising he's just a boy who likes to do things traditionally associated with girls.

Every other poster on here says their child has done exactly the same. Because children gravitate towards all toys, it's only society that genders them.

PeteAndManu · 10/09/2017 22:38

Apologies if this is a stupid question. Re Times article from Empress' post. The Tavistock Clinics referral statistics included 84 children who were referred who were under 7 yo or younger including two 3 year olds. How does this arise in 3-year olds?

FirstShinyRobe · 10/09/2017 21:57

I like the way she claims to have read everything related to gender care and still thinks there's not another way to try first before sterilising folk. Like, I dunno, feminism.

No money in that, though.

thecraftyfox · 10/09/2017 21:52

Very relieved she has been suspended even if it is temporary. She came to my attention last year when she was featured in this article. I was so concerned I reported her to the GMC for her self described prescribing history. I believe a number of medical professionals have reported her in the past. I hope her temporary restrictions are permenant. It takes an incredible level of arrogance/ God complex to act they way she has.

PencilsInSpace · 10/09/2017 20:40

Good.

Lolimax · 10/09/2017 20:40

She was my GP a few years ago. She was brilliant.

enoughisenough12 · 10/09/2017 20:38

@Datun That's what the link above states.
It really is a disgrace that this is allowed to happen and there is such a lack of awareness about it.
I reckon if parents, teachers, social workers actually understood what these drugs do and then applied their extensive knowledge of child and adolescent development to the reality, then suddenly the scales will fall from their eyes.
Sadly the people who have dominated the debate are I presume generally born males, not parents or far removed from their children and have so successfully silenced the debate that obvious questions such as 'how can a 12 year old fully give informed consent to being 'chemically castrated '?' are never asked.
btw, is there a better phrase rather than chemically castrated?

Datun · 10/09/2017 20:06

Isn't this the docter who prescribes for people in 17 seconds by email ?

QuentinSummers · 10/09/2017 19:20

She was also in the news in April for running websites that weren't registered and may not have been checking patient identities properly.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-wales-south-east-wales-39520785

This tumblr suggests she gets standing orders from her patients of £25 a month for being their doctor. Given trans people need to take hormones or detransition, it sounds like a good income for her.

ama-patients.tumblr.com