Do you think womens health issues arent taken as seriously as mens?

I posted a link upthread man which summarises some of the research.
Have to lol at one thread going on about feminists insisting on linking everything being off putting and another demanding evidence. Kinda ironic

This is women chatting, sharing experiences. Chewing the cud, so to speak. Not sure why we need to "provide evidence"?

Can anyone support these suppositions with any kind of evidence?

HRT is just the prescription charge. It pisses me off that sequential hrt attracts the double charge (because you have two separate pill preparations in the same package) but not half as much as it would if I needed a pair of surgical stockings . The double charge is a bit random at times.

If I didn't take it I would be shelling out for other prescriptions.

It is still cheaper than the guff you can get at Holland and Barratt. Once you have paid out for your macca root, black cohash, red clover, sage tablets, menopace etc, it can really add up.

My biggest issue now is that women who are menopausal and choose HRT (most do) have to pay for HRT
I didn't know that. That is fucking ridiculous. Especially when hormones are prescribed on the NHS to treat other conditions like endometriosis, PMT and male gender dysphoria.
Maybe that's why there are so many women being prescribed anti-depressants for menopause. I assume these are available on the NHS.

scallops, we know that women will soldier on with conditions that are eminently treatable even now, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.

There are women walking about with fissures, rectoceles, incontinence problems and all sorts which are easily sorted but that women have to be able to have time to recover from afterwards or have to push their doctor into dealing with. And yes, I do wonder how much of the fact that women don't get the medical treatments they need is because we are simply told that we should shut up and put up coupled with the soul tiredness that comes with a chronic condition that leaves women with no energy to fight the fight. On the surface, that might look as if I am blaming women for their continued health problems, and I am emphatically not, having had a chronic health problem I can tell you that advocating for your own health needs can often feel like one fight more in a day of endless fighting and who can be arsed? It often takes someone going along as an advocate to get things moving, and, if a problem is to do with 'things we just don't talk about in this country, thank you' then that can be really difficult. No one wants to admit to a friend that they piss themselves when they cough or that they have shit coming through their vaginas.

Fibromyalgia is one such illness. More than 7 times likely to affect women than men. But still not taken seriously enough by certain quarters of the medical establishment.

I wonder to what extent men are less prepared to take the "wait and see" approach, so when a GP suggests it they push for more active monitoring or treatment?

Wasn't there a report in the late forties/early fifties when the NHS started about how shocked they were that so many women had chronic illnesses and had been leading relatively normal lives, in pain, before they had been able to get treatment on the NHS? The ignoring of women's pain has been going on for centuries.

We know from various studies that women's pain isn't taken nearly as seriously as men's pain, even as pain is relatively subjective, women are expected to put up with more intense pain before they're taken seriously.

As Lego says, migraine in women is often linked to hormones, but it's also often not, and yet many GPs will simply assume that even cluster and hemiplegic migraine are simply down to 'women's problems'.

Another area where women are often treated really poorly is obstetrics. I have been a birth partner now for several women and have seen some truly appalling 'care' being given to birthing mothers, which I have questioned at the time and advocated for those women. Come to think of it, I wonder if me not taking shit on behalf of friends is why those women have asked me to be with them...

And yes, the majority of drug tests/treatment trials are done on white males, because they don't have any of those pesky hormonal leaky things, or slightly different physiology to mess up their lovely clean results!

Haemophilia is primarily a male condition. Women can have it but apparently only if both parents are carriers of the gene, which is obviously rare. Because it's very serious it's understandably important to deal with it properly. However I've no idea how many/what "female" chronic illnesses there are, that are comparable, & how well they are generally managed.

Migraine is much more common for women than men. There are many types of migraine & many of them are affected by hormonal fluctuations. I know my employer is fairly unhelpful with migraine awareness...

Heart attack symptoms can be quite different for men versus women. However the symptoms that we are all told to look out for, are the men's symptoms. Hence, heart attacks in women are more difficult to spot as people often don't realise what they are looking at.

Colleague is being investigated for MS. Apparently one of the obvious symptoms is pain that gets worse during periods but GPs don't bother even looking for the red flags even when you have a family history. She had to go blind before they took her neck pain seriously.

I have suffered from pmt terribly since having dc. I visited my gp (male) 3 months in a row in tears about it begging for a hysterectomy. The final time I told him I was feeling suicidal. He just wanted to change my pill to a different prescription and 'see how I get on'.

Luckily my dm marched me back down there and spoke on my behalf an I was admitted to hospital that day.

If I hadn't mentioned it being linked to my periods I'm sure I would have been taken more seriously.

I get irritated by this too.

Having suffered hormonal problems for a long time (diagnosed) there wasn't any urgency or intervention to help and support me. I have constantly had to follow it up.

Now under a great consultant - he sees women with my problem and similar being treated by GP's on a daily basis, incorrectly.

My biggest issue now is that women who are menopausal and choose HRT (most do) have to pay for HRT. It is a female stage of life that takes place, and therefore we are disadvantaged (financially) because we have to pay for such medication if we want it (i.e. similar to tampon tax). I just always wonder if menopause, periods etc were a 'male thing' how different the world would be.

I think women are often dismissed but male-specific conditions are not necessarily taken seriously either. DH had 10 years of prostate pain and inflammation and infections before someone agreed to refer him to an andrologist. It meant at that time we could not have children as sex was often too painful. They prescribed Viagra to "override" the discomfort but it gave him crashing headaches. Same with another drug, Cialis. It was only when he finally saw the andrologist that they recommended a special low dose form of Cialis which he takes every day when we are ttc.

So men do suffer too.

Where I think it is different is the interpersonal attitudes. DH has never been called "foolish" or "an anxious young man" for refusing treatment or asking questions, both of which have happened to me in the last 2 years.

There is research showing women aren't taken as seriously

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/how-sexist-stereotypes-mean-doctors-ignore-womens-pain-a7157931.html?amp

My post is v rambly but I think I agree - it's hard to compare between the sexes but it's another one of those things where women aren't listened to a lot and what they say isn't really taken into account. Obviously not all of the time, but often.

Things like anaemia and hormone imbalances can make you feel like shit for months but as a pp said, aren't life-threatening so aren't treated immediately/seen as v important. However eg if your iron was to get so low that you needed a blood transplant doctors act v quickly (as happened to me). So maybe if a GP sees small imbalances or slightly lower levels of something they wouldn't see it as essential/important whereas treatment to correct it could really help someone's day-to-day life. And women are more likely to be anaemic etc.

There's been lots in the news about endometriosis recently and how lots of doctors don't even know what it is. Obviously there's not a male equivalent but that is definitely an area where women struggle a lot and are just dismissed as having bad period pains.

Also my friend of mine had a large abdomen and was told by a female GP she just needed more exercise. She was up to the GPs several times about symptoms. She went to another practice and found to have ovarian cancer. Into surgery asap.

Men are heavily socialised not to seek medical attention (and are more likely to have trouble getting time off work to visit a doctor - it's not ideal to take a baby/toddler to a GP, but it's usually possible). A lot of the longevity gap between married and single men appears to be due to the wives' ability to persuade their husbands to seek medical attention where necessary.

So perhaps it's not surprising that GPs are more willing to pay attention when a man does cross their threshold. It's a classic example of where patriarchal assumptions hurt both sexes differently.

I know it took me 8 years of saying "I'm always unwell and I catch everything" for me to be diagnosed by a locum eventually. But I'm not sure that was a female issue, more that I kept being neutropenic and nobody looked why... 8 years of infections before my count dropped so low I was sent to haematology as an emergency

Heart disease is the biggest killer of men and women, so it's a bit much to say it's taken more seriously because it affects men more. Although being male is a risk factor. They are affected at a younger age, on average too.
This is the field I work in, so I know a little bit about it.
A male friend was just treated and he wasn't taken seriously, but then he isn't even 40 which is a very low age to suffer from heart disease and I suspect the doctors considered him a low risk due to his age.
It was 4 weeks until they gave him an angiogram, and he was at home suffering from severe chest pains whenever he moved the whole time.

I was coming to say rage heart attack thing. Obviously life threatening but there are often times a long run in to a heart attack. I know 3 men that have had treatment before a heart attack and 2 women who went to the dr for 5 months and year and both of them had heart attacks. The dr treated them both for heart burn and indigestion. Anecdotal of course but a lovely lady died cause 3 months with increasing heartburn didn't set off alarm bells.

However women are more likely to be left out of clinical trials so results are skewed to male biology.