Lord of the Flies remake with girls

At a time when the film industry is finally being pushed to use actors of the correct race for a role, it seems a very odd step in the other direction to substitute girls into boy characters, just for the sake of it.
I suspect there would be a lot of protest if it was the other way around, and they remade something with men playing all the female characters.

Has a film ever been made that's about a group of girls that doesn't have them.all as appearance obsessed bimbos? Can almost garuntee they will be all but naked with some girl on girl.thrown in.

I though the whole point of Lord of the flies was that they were boys? And how they reverted into almost primal states to survive

Well at the time of writing the Empire was in full collapse. And I think there was, and still is, this great question.

A rationalisation was that English society is made of better stuff, the volksgeist. These tropical places, the peoples, were naturally inclined towards chaos and violence. The male boarding school is perhaps the greatest symbol, almost a cultural idol, of this. Order. Class. Structure.

These institutions are temples of patriarchy. So yes using a female cast, perhaps from a comprehensive school, would be different. But I can easily imagine a group of girls scared witless by the Beast, and one stepping forward and saying, "Let's hunt it and kill it".

I'm sure I read a study (but I can't find a reference right now so it's possible it was just somebody's opinion) that found boys and girls both do the vicious psychological bullying, name calling, falling out, making someone feel useless. Boys also do the physical bullying, so that's what we see as the boys type of bullying. So it's not as clear cut as " boys but each other, girls are psychological".

I know I've seen boys being really verbally nasty to each other. My brother was horribly bullied as a child, but only very rarely was he hit, it was mostly the other boys calling him names and refusing to be his friend. I've also had boys in my form at work suffer from the nasty comments and exclusion that people think is exclusive to girls (obviously once I know about it, it gets dealt with, but quite often they leave it a while before they tell anyone).

Seachange no of course not, but it's just part of a wider demonisation of teenage girls generally, that they're all evil manipulators who are experts at psychological bullying. Some girls are bullies in that way, lots aren't. I don't think it would be an inevitable consequence of a desert-island-full-of-girls situation but that's where I can see the story going.

grace Making lord of the flies with girls is a bit silly.
But girls can be absolutely fucking brutal in the way they bully. They do tend to bully using psychological tactics. I was bullied horribly at school. It's just as bad as physical bullying. It's an attempt to make the other person feel friendless and destroy their self esteem.
If a woman was being emotionally abused by her partner, would you say 'well at least they're not hitting you' ?

I have 2 dd. Both very, very different. Both get huge amounts of attention from boys though. At times really stupid. Niether have been prolific daters and treated others with respect. Anyway, here's the point, I have been amazed how nasty other girls have been to them and yet, at times, how obsessive they have become. Hence it has felt to me like there is a parallel story about girls but very unlike LotF. The same potential for unwrapping some uncomfortable truths. But it would be a different story and would need a different context!

Willow
Err ok

I hope that bikinis and gratuitous nudity wont be a thing! They're supposed to be children aren't they?

I agree it is completely missing the point - its not that I think that young boys are necessarily innately more savage and brutal than young girls, but that (especially at that time) they were socialised to be that way by the society they grew up in. Plus, the book is a microcosym of society. Women do not hold them same level of leadership roles as men do (of course there are exceptions) and back when Golding wrote this they had even less power.

YouRat

Errr ok.

This wouldn't happen with girls.
Girls are made if sugar and spice and all things nice.

If it's set in an office, I'm fine with it.

Not to mention the Hitler/totalitarian regime allegory. It's a great book.

It's about boys on an island. Who kill the only sensitive boy there.

As well as lots of bikinis / toplessness, I predict that two characters will develop feelings for each other and have to explore their burgeoning lesbianism in some detail...

It can also be read as a critique of English exceptionalism or as a examination of Christianity.

I did read a book a while ago called Be Nice which was basically Lord of the Flies but with girls. It was an interesting idea but it just fell into the usual trap of making teenage girls out to be evil, sexy little viragos who will ultimately turn on each other. A lot of the comments under that article draw the same conclusion - teenage boys might be physically violent and occasionally murderous but girls are far better at psychological bullying, which we all know is much worse, right...? Sounds like another excuse for othering and hating women, I reckon.

Haven't read the book, but couldn't avoid reading a lot about it, and I thought the point of it was how boys are socialized to be little horrors at the boys only boarding schools?

Or I am misremembering and it was just a "humans are horrible" thing, but I do think it was somehow specifically about boys.

And I absolutely do fear that there'll be gratuitous nudity. Lots of it.

We aren't allowed to have women on screen without that, it appears. Wonder Woman had a lot of stuff that was dangerously close to chainmail bikini armour, quite disappointingly.

Maybe they will be transgirls?

I will make sure to make a tumblr post claiming that that is the case, whether it is true or not.
In the tradition of the tumblr post that claimed that half of the amazons in Wonder Woman are bepenised "transwomen".
(Not that in a culture where people of both sexes dress the same, you'd be able to see a difference between a no-op, no-hormones transwoman and a man, but, who cares?)

My phone is being a guy so I can't see the article. I suspect Piggy/Pigette wouldn't have met a sticky end if it were all girls. I've seen these marooned/fend for yourself to shows and the men go mad and all macho whilst the women mostly get in with it.

Golding must be turning in his grave.
How can they remake it with girls? The whole point is it's about male violence?

Ha, maybe I didn't understand the seriousness of it, I'm known for not following films very well, but then it is a work of fiction. Wish we'd studied it in English Literature then I could ask the teacher how bad it was. I understood the seriousness of the racism in 'Roll of Thunder, Hear my Cry' because we studied it as a class.

Banana
How many young boys do you know that amuse themselves by torturing friends and trying to kill another boy?

Maybe they will be transgirls?

I once split up with a BF over this book, he said that the boys were so evil to each other on the island but when I read it I thought it was normal young lads amusing themselves in the absence of adults.
But then the BF was a pompous old twat and I wanted a reason to dump him!