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Rapist copied scenes he'd seen in pornography

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NoLoveofMine · 25/08/2017 23:16

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-41039754

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/08/2017 16:45

but it was just an accident. The same risks apply when doing water sports

To be clear "water sports" are you referring to water- ski-ing? water polo ? surfing? synchronised diving? or pissing over women and/or into their mouths?

CoinOperatedGurl · 26/08/2017 16:33

And that is sad but it was just an accident. The same risks apply when doing water sports and other activities which require lots of bodily fluids.

CoinOperatedGurl · 26/08/2017 16:31

Due to the money the industry makes profits will always come over people.

enoughisenough12 · 26/08/2017 16:10

Good grief Quentin - I wish I didn't know that Sad

Sometimes (on a bad day) it feels as if there are no depths that the porn industry and abusive men won't stoop to in order to get their own gratification.

QuentinSummers · 26/08/2017 15:58

Oops link fail
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QuentinSummers · 26/08/2017 15:57

Omg nolove cannot believe how derailed your thread is. I am surprised it's controversial to discuss the impact of violent porn on men off the back of a case where it's explicitly described as a contributing factor. Jesus.

coin If sex work is a job, what health and safety would you put in place to prevent unnecessary deaths like this? Drowns-In-Semen-While-Filming-Bukkake-Scene

NoLoveofMine · 26/08/2017 15:54

Indeed so 7Days. I'd say not worth it but in the circumstances far more education on sex, relationships and consent in schools is vital.

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7Days · 26/08/2017 15:46

The thread isn't about how porn works for those who are in it, but the effects on those who watch it.
Didn't have a good effect o this guy, and his victims had to pay the price.

Good side of porn - it gives many men and some women orgasms.
The performers get paid.
Some other people make a lot of money.

Bad side of porn - on performers, on individual consumers, the people in their orbit, and society as a whole.

Is it worth it? How much damage is too much damage?

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 26/08/2017 15:09

If you dont get the point of collidascope post

Then its you who has problems with sex

coin

I think i missed a post for me earlier....where you asking do i agree with rape porn? If so the answer would be no, but i dont like the porn industry anyway

Datun · 26/08/2017 14:09

SophoclesTheFox

Me too. The amount of confusion and utter repression of oneself, coupled with the usual bog standard derailing and whataboutery is depressing.

SophoclesTheFox · 26/08/2017 14:02

I don't doubt that some women say that their careers in porn are happy ones, got . They tend to say differently when they exit the industry.

If you don't think porn is harmful, despite it having harmed you personally, coin, then something is awry. I couldn't begin to say what that is through words on a screen. I hope it's not true, to be honest.

NoLoveofMine · 26/08/2017 14:01

I posted it, whilst out, using words the judge used in his summing up. Regardless, the happiness or otherwise of anyone involved in pornography is clearly irrelevant to this case and others like it.

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CoinOperatedGurl · 26/08/2017 13:59

If you didn't want a link to porn in general then why make the link in the op?

NoLoveofMine · 26/08/2017 13:59

Thank you Sylvia. It's tiresome but very telling about the attitudes of some and their lack of care for victims.

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SylviaPoe · 26/08/2017 13:58

I'm sorry your thread has become completely derailed, no love.

NoLoveofMine · 26/08/2017 13:57

Talking about "happy porn actresses" in the context of a man who raped women and girls is bizarre. This is about his victims and others, not "actresses".

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CoinOperatedGurl · 26/08/2017 13:57

Why do you not think I'm in a good place? Because I don't think porn is harmful.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/08/2017 13:56

Yes , me too Sophocles.

But hey, we are no doubt just frigid and joyless and don't enjoy sex. I'm not , and I'd bet others aren't too but I'd take that any day over what is being promoted here.

gotspoiler · 26/08/2017 13:56

SophoclesTheFox There ARE happy porn actresses. How is that hard to accept?

DJBaggySmalls · 26/08/2017 13:56

www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/15497546.Woman___s_murder____could_not_have_been_prevented______report_finds/?ref=mr&lp=2#comments-anchor

I believe this is another case of a man acting out what he'd seen in porn. This man dated a woman with learning difficulties after being dumped by his first victim.
I really doubt he told his potential girlfriends he like strangling them during sex. They didnt seem to know he was about to do it and complained afterwards.
He is serving 20 years for murder, this isnt his first offence.

SophoclesTheFox · 26/08/2017 13:52

If the porn'n'prostitution cheerleading posts on this thread are supposed to make us think that the industry is populated by well adjusted actresses and happy hookers, I just want to interject at this point that it's having exactly the opposite effect on me Sad

You can't be in a good place to be coming onto this thread and making those points.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/08/2017 13:49

LassWiTheDelicateAir

So you ARE anti porn

Yes- why the need for shouty capitals? Why is that surprising?

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/08/2017 13:48

Also please don't feel sorry for me. I'm not a victim

You were having what you thought was consensual sex with adult men when you were pre-teen. You thought it was reasonable for a 15 year old to have a sexual relationship with a 30 year old man. Keep telling yourself you were not a victim but as someone else said the level of cognitive dissonance needed to get to that belief is mind- blowing.

You clearly also have no idea what "grooming" means.

But you need not worry about anyone feeling sorry for you given your posts on this thread.

CoinOperatedGurl · 26/08/2017 13:47

LassWiTheDelicateAir

So you ARE anti porn.

Scrumplestiltskin · 26/08/2017 13:45

I think society is becoming more and more selfish. We do what pleases us with little thought for others. Men who rape I believe feel entitled to seize what they desire.
I don't think its misogyny alone, I think society is becoming sick.
I do agree with this. Misogyny is a big part of it, but it's also more widespread than just violence against women - it's identity politics, and entitlement, and a lack of community responsibility.

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