Should rape be considered as a hate crime?

Yes Lass, I agree that legal wording is a different ballgame. It's useful to have a lawyer point that out.

Personally, I would like the word hate in there somewhere. Because it's high time this problem was highlighted and given the label it deserves.

I know there is a reluctance to 'grade' rape (culturally, I'm not sure if there is one legally) Which I agree with. Because there is a danger of minimising some rape a result.

But could you envisage a crime, that has misogyny at its heart, which could then be called a hate crime? Because many attacks on women do seem to be driven by hate.

And yes, I find male rape confusing. Not the rape, so much, but the fact that it is generally in prisons. It suggests that men will do anything to get their dick serviced. Which, in turn, indicates a sexual motivation.

And I know there is a power dynamic there too. But it seems to me to be very strange power dynamic. Unless there are an awful lot of men out there who can overcome their reluctance to anal sex, for the sake of the power it gives them? I would have thought a beating would have the same effect.

To me, male on male violence has more of a territorial, challenge, and power dynamic. Whereas male on female violence, although obviously containing a power dynamic, seems also to stem from bitterness, hate and resentment.

What do you think the motivation for male rape is then?

I'm not seeing from a legal point of view what the point is of labelling all female rape as a hate crime. I think posters are using this in a lay sense but I'm not sure it translates to a legal sense.

If raping a woman comes from misogyny, that's the hate right there.

Purely for her sex. I don't think men get raped by other men because they hate men, do they? I might be wrong.

How prevalent is male on male rape, outside prison?

I don't think rape of women should be treated as a hate crime. If all acts of rape of women are hate crimes the term is largely meaningless.

On the other hand I don't think you could legitimately say the rape of a woman is a hate crime but that of a man isn't.

Before you all pile on I do think that sentencing should be far more robust , eligibility for parole far more strictly reviewed and conditions and restrictions imposed after release. That to me seems more practical than simply adding a word which if ubiquitously applied adds nothing.

Rape is male terrorism against the whole female sex.

Women are terrified and don't dare to walk alone at night. Men have no such fears.

So stop the whataboutery.

Yes, it should be considered a hate crime. Men who rape women have misogynist attitudes. It is no coincidence.

In my opinion, yes. There are so many attacks by men and boys on women and girls for no other reason other than the victims are female. These are without doubt misogynist hate crimes; victims selected specifically for their sex. The contempt for the victims purely due to their being female - and the contempt for all women and girls displayed in committing such crimes - is part of the reason for committing them as far as I'm concerned.

Whatever we think will be ignored, because we are women.
The rape of women is a hate crime, but it will be ignored because we are women.

I think shouting sexist abuse at women in the street should be treated as a hate crime. You are specifically targeting one group of people because a characteristic (sex) protected against discrimination in other areas of law. Hate crime legislation excludes hate crime against women although I believe some police forces have started treating this sort of abuse as a hate crime, don't know how that pans out in court though.

Hetero men rape women because they were women, they target women specifically. They don't go and rape a man if there's no women at the club that night.

I don't know the specifics of hate crimes, but targeting someone because of their sex sounds like it should be a hate crime to me.

Yes, rape should absolutely be a hate crime.

It's a means of demonstrating power and contempt and indicating that the victim's safety and possibly life, is at your whim.

Rape is all about men controlling women.

It should absolutely be seen as a hate crime.

Using the sex of a tiny minority of victims to negate the sex of the overwhelming majority of them is whataboutery.

No, I don't think male victims suffer less than female ones, just that there are far fewer of them.

Rape is not all about power, it's about sex and power. Otherwise punches and kicks would be equal substitute weapons to penises, and they're not.

Of course it matters that males commit 99% of all rapes whether their victims are women, children, animals, or other men.

Rape is all about power no matter who's on the receiving end

It should be considered on par with murder
IMO. When a person is raped a part of them dies and their life will never be the same.

It's not just power and control over women. It's power and control over the victims.

it's just as much about control when men are raped. Stop trying to make everything about sexism.