Is there a name for this thing that seems to happen all the time on feminist threads? It happens on other subjects too,, but it's very noticeable on feminism.

Ah yes @Popchyk the Whatabout the 3rd World?

Because we don't care about them at all

so you want women to say mate, pal etc more often? i'm really struggling to follow what the issue is

What a stupid thing to say Manclife. But good way to absolutely prove Bertrand's point

Mate and love strongly ime depends on area / class. So watch out pps that you are not applying what happens in your life universally.

Copperbeech

To people they don't know, eg. in shops
Women to men: love, sweetheart, darling.
Men to women: see above
Women to women: see above
Men to men: mate, pal, fella, sir.

To friends
Women to men: possibly love sweetheart etc, or mate depending on friendship.
Men to women: see above
Women to women: see above
Men to men: mate, pal, fella....

Brilliant! Because someone challenges your world view they must be lying. I agree 'bubbly boy' sounds unlikely but it's not impossible. If your argument is strong enough you won't need to challenge individuals exeriences to get your point across.

Hanging out with all the bossy men hesterton

Oh yes, actually with actual friends, I've said/been called mate. But it's a joke thing between friends - where the distinction comes in is with people you don't know, who will call men 'pal', 'mate', 'sir', 'fella', and women love, darling, sweetheart, my lovely.

Women will also use those terms to men they don't know, but men will not.

so what you re saying is that the terms love, darling, sweetheart, are used most BETWEEN women and men, but terms like mate, guys, etc are used in all men, or all women groups?

They have clearly never watched Strictly with Brendan "This Girl..." Cole. In the same way I wanted a contestant to peel Chris Tarrant's hand off their shoulder in Millionaire, I would dearly love Brendan's next partner to interject WOMAN on prime time TV.

Nobody said it was worse, hasitcometothis33.

But your post is a great example of exactly what the OP was talking about. Seeing something that isn't there and deciding that the OP is actually denigrating lower-paid women.

Which is very clearly untrue.

Anyways, while you lot sit here spouting utter bollocks on here about calling people mate, people in Syria are having a spot of bother. And people trafficking in Yemen is unpleasant. You unfeeling harridans.

Talk about giving feminism a bad name.

Good example CopperBeach!

Maybe it should be called the "parallel universe where nothing bad ever happens so please send me the directions!" paradox.

Oh yes, actually with actual friends, I've said/been called mate. But it's a joke thing between friends - where the distinction comes in is with people you don't know, who will call men 'pal', 'mate', 'sir', 'fella', and women love, darling, sweetheart, my lovely.

Women will also use those terms to men they don't know, but men will not.

My female friend used to call me (and everyone) "mate". I noticed it because it was the only time then or since I've noticed a woman doing it and applying it to other women.

I've never been called 'mate' except by my kids and partner as a joke.

People in shops, garages, bars, etc, do not call women customers 'mate'. Ever.

when and where are women NOT called "mate" not come across this being a gender specific thing, ever. I'm not sure what you are arguing, whether this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I certainly also here men called "mate". It isn't always a term of endearment, though, its quite often sarcastic, especially when coming at me from teenagers!

Tell your friend that 96% of all crime (I think the stat is), is committed by men, Rita.

Perhaps though women are more cunning and don't get caught?

All the time on any talkboard.

5,4,3,2,1...What about how this affects men though?

False Equivalence Insistence strategy?

I saw an awful one where, in response to the increased and documented racist hate crimes last summer, someone said that 'they' say offensive things about white people all the time, but you don't hear about it because 'they' do it in their own homes. But it's just as bad, and indeed worse, than shouting 'fuck off home, we voted you out' at a brown person on a bus.

Whataboutery

@hasitcome
Way to miss the point! No woman over the age of 18 should be called a girl. But sometimes one has to appeal to other prevailing prejudices to prove a point.

Why is it worse if a 'professional' woman is called a girl?

Is it less sexist if a 41 year old woman who's unemployed/works a minimum wage job is called a girl?

Bertrand - we could call it the "Bubbly Boy Law"

Let's take it to the masses people!

Ha. Cross-posted with stitch with the bubbly boy thing.

Clearly utter bollocks.