Women forced to lift up tops before entering football ground.

@enoughisenough12 unless I'm mistaken the only people who have argued it may be acceptable are women.

@enoughisenough12 I don't understand why waiting for all the information before criticising people is such a bad thing? I've already said asking women to lift their top is not acceptable. All I have said is I want to hear the other person/s account. I was taught that this was the right thing to do from an early age by my Mother.

Of course @ Alternative. I'm taking this discussion way too seriously. Off for a calming chamomile tea - although maybe a would be better.

I'm still amazed to see that other women find this acceptable in any way.

Perhaps:
Some women like showing their tits off in public or they may not be actual women on here ...or they may just be goady fuckers or plain and simple twats.

Explodes in a puff of feminist frustration also applies to the end of my post

I'm still amazed to see that other women find this acceptable in any way. I get that those who haven't had years / decades of putting up with misogyny, sexual harassment / abuse and general oppression as a woman may wish to play the 'let's hear both sides' card but come on people, women being asked to lift their top in public to show their bra in order to access a football ground? or anywhere for that matter?
It is so unacceptable that it defies belief that some people are justifying it. It's an abuse of power and yet again, women are the target.
So frustrating that there's even a debate about the legitimacy of this.

Explodes in a puff of feminist frustration
(I lifted that from another poster on another thread - thank you whoever that was - but it so typifies how I feel these days
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Neverknowing

I'm from this town and live six miles away now. Have to say. Your statement is totally ridiculous and untrue. It's unbelievable.

However I don't agree with the football clubs actions in this case.
It's hardly the whole town though

No but an underwire bra will set off metal detectors

Not in my experience either.

@Lweji okay, poor choice of words. 'Can' set them off.

@OlennasWimple except they were female security staff according to the report I read.

The men who did this are obviously just out to humiliate women because they can. It's a power trip, pure and simple. Nasty fuckers

No but an underwire bra will set off metal detectors

Not much, in my experience.

@glitterglue could t agree more. The police can't strip you in public so neither should security at a football ground.

@alternativetentical you're quite right some zips are metal but they rarely set off 'wand' style metal detectors. Don't know why.

@deleteordecay your quite right you've no reason to not believe them but not have you a reason to believe them. I don't think they're doing it for a payout but I do like to hear accounts from all involved before making a decision either way.

@catsareassholes why has me being male got anything to do with it? Perhaps I just like to hear ALL the evidence before I judge people.

If airports manage it without...

Are men asked to do it, too?

Coming back to the original incident at this football stadium, I would suggest strongly worded letters of complaint are written to the safety officer, who is the safety certificate holder. If there is no suitable response, the next route is escalating it to the local safety advisory group (SAG) who are made up of representatives from the stadium, local authority and emergency services, and are the regulatory body for the stadium itself.

Love it when people trot out 'privilege' in an argument about why we should have less autonomy over our bodies .

You're right, I am a white middle aged woman, I should shut the fuck up and get my tits out in public. Only this time it's for the purpose of security public humiliation and not liberal feminism sexual titiillation for men

I've been to both the eye and parliament recently. Not once was I asked to show them my breasts.

Oh fuck that shit. There are no circumstances in which it would be ok to tell a woman (or man) to semi strip in public.

Or the London eye, the tower of London. Anyone been to the houses of parliament recently, much of it going on there?

I don't think my friend had to lift her top for the world athletics at the Olympic Stadium either - will have to ask her

I need to speak to the security at Wimbledon, the 02 and Wembley. They have never made me lift my top up. They are obviously crap at their job. You would think with them being actual terrorist targets that they would follow this example.