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Women forced to lift up tops before entering football ground.

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DeleteOrDecay · 21/08/2017 10:07

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/we-were-treated-like-animals-11023143?ICID=FBmirrorr_main

Outrageous. I understand that for safety they need to search people, having been to football matches myself in the past and have had my bag searched etc.

Never have I ever been asked to lift up my top though. Surely if they really needed to do this (and I don't believe they did), it should have been done behind a screen for privacy and dignity. Not many women would be comfortable taking their top off in front of a bunch of strangers.

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Terrylene · 25/10/2017 21:58

That says nuffin Confused

Mysteriouscurle · 25/10/2017 21:34

The EFL has provided a response.

"EFL Statement: Stevenage versus Grimsby Town

4 Hours ago

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Following a comprehensive review of events alleged to have taken place prior to the League Two fixture between Stevenage and Grimsby Town on Saturday 19th August, the EFL has now given due consideration to the complaint raised in respect of the stewarding operation on the day.

On receipt of detailed observations from both clubs, the EFL can confirm that no specific action is to be taken under its rules.

The EFL will, however, continue to work with all its clubs to ensure that attending matches remains an enjoyable, positive experience for supporters and, to assist, will be issuing updated guidance regarding a number of safety, security and stewarding matters.

In addition, supporters are reminded that dedicated channels exist at all clubs and the EFL to ensure that there are professional and approachable points of contact to report any complaints or issues of concern. Details are available via a club’s or the EFL’s Supporters’ Charter.

Alternatively, all supporters have the right to contact the Independent Football Ombudsman (IFO) who are accredited as an Approved Alternate Dispute Resolution Body.

The EFL notes the co-operation received in this matter and in particular would like to thank both the management teams at Stevenage and Grimsby Town for their assistance."

Disappointing

Mysteriouscurle · 24/08/2017 22:54

Rowgtfc. What I've based my comments on were not the newspaper headlines but the mariners trust letter which has been freely published. And they seem like very valid concerns. I support a league 2 team too. And we have definitely played teams with far worse reputations than grimsby town over the past few years. Still never come across this type of stewarding. I think ( and hope) it probably wouldnt happen at my club. Dont think away to stevenage was on my to visit list this year anyway buts its a no go for me now.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:56

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Women forced to lift up tops before entering football ground.
CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:55

That was my view too, Cats. I'm so grateful to have this chance to learn from a wise man who knows more than we do

It's just so important to occasionally, stop and think, am I doing wrong? is there a man who could help me out with this?

Collidascope · 24/08/2017 15:53

*I always thought it was because the majority of women were heterosexual and so many men seem to feel threatened by feminism.

They even call feminists bitter. Can you imagine?*

That was my view too, Cats. I'm so grateful to have this chance to learn from a wise man who knows more than we do.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:47

Well done for harming your own cause.

Are you the expert on why women don't identify as feminist too! Damn you're good.

I always thought it was because the majority of women were heterosexual and so many men seem to feel threatened by feminism.

They even call feminists bitter. Can you imagine?

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:46

Sounds like a very bitter comment to me.

That's not why bitter means.Confused

Manclife · 24/08/2017 15:44

If the friend was a woman he'd probably have assumed she did it herself while parallel parking.

It's comments like that which make less than 20% of women identify as feminists. Despite 80% wanting equal rights. Well done for harming your own cause.

Manclife · 24/08/2017 15:41

"But to assume you had anything of real value to add over actual women would take some serious TOO."

Sounds like a very bitter comment to me.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:39

If the friend was a woman he'd probably have assumed she did it herself while parallel parking.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:38

How did you get bitter from my questioning your refusal to answer the question?

AlternativeTentacle · 24/08/2017 15:36

if your friend says he saw someone hit his car and run, you'd tell him you'd wait until the trial to have an opinion? Or you'd assume he wasn't making shit up as he goes along?

If his friend was a woman, he would most definitely question her observation skills. ;)

Manclife · 24/08/2017 15:34

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CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:30

Of course you'd want to learn about things that affect them manclife*, but to assume you had anything of real value to add over actual women would take some serious TOO.

(Obviously only those women you're directly related to, fuck human rights in general.)

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:28

Interesting I used an adult in that scenario and you changed it to a child, that you're parenting.

Manclife · 24/08/2017 15:27

Why would 'feminism' on a unisex thread be just for women? Unless I'm mistake feminism is about equal rights. Also why would I not want to discuss matters that may affect my mother, sister, daughter and wife?

Manclife · 24/08/2017 15:24

If my DD comes to me and tell me DS had hit her then I would believe her. I then go and speak to the DS to get his side of the story then make an informed decision. What I don't do is walk straight into the other room and accuse/punish DS with speaking to him.

This isn't a male/female thing to do. Just a decent thing to do.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:24

Testicles of objectivity would be an excellent name for a band.

I'm directing an Air Tambourine move at Manclife right now.

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:23

Besides the site description says nothing about being just for women so perhaps you should find a website solely for women if you want to make sweeping statements about

Did you need a "no boys allowed" sign to understand that the feminism section on Mums net might be Seen as a predominantly female space?

CatsAreAssholes · 24/08/2017 15:09

You may have notice the people involved aren't on trial. You have, haven't you?

if your friend says he saw someone hit his car and run, you'd tell him you'd wait until the trial to have an opinion? Or you'd assume he wasn't making shit up as he goes along?

They won't be hanged until dead and so in the mean time it's perfectly acceptable for women to discuss typical sexual assault against women with out your interjections.

QueenLaBeefah · 24/08/2017 15:09

Testicles of objectivity would be an excellent name for a band.

DeleteOrDecay · 24/08/2017 15:06

Actually feminism chat is a predominantly woman's space, it would be a bit strange to find a topic about feminism and women's rights filled with men.

You are not the first and probably won't be the last to come in here and do exactly what cats said.

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Manclife · 24/08/2017 14:47

@Xenophile yes I do stand by that. But I also believe a person is innocent until proven guilty.

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