Can we talk about this lip filler fashion

It looks completely shite and hopefully, asa fashion, it will die off quickly.

And may I point out that here in the feminism section, no one is interested in whether something is your choosey choice?

We do analysis of society in general here.

Blimey, I've stumbled down a rabbit hole here. I do not frequent the feminism boards but surely feminism is about the freedom to be treated equally and make whatever choices we wish to make.

I have known for literally decades what lipstick is meant to represent. The fact that when I look at red lips on a woman (or myself), I don't think ooh labia, has nothing to do with it.

The fashion is literally thousands of years old. Enhancing redness on the lips, as a sign of sexual availability.

Like the genitals of other primates getting red and engorged during fertility. (Not a fashion I would like to see being promoted).

wuckfit

I'm not disputing that you find it a choice that suits you. I'm just pointing out where it comes from.

The fact that you don't relate to that is entirely understandable.

Lipstick is designed to mimic the labia. And although, I can't quite see it myself, I do know that from an anthropological point of view it's been studied.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/partyinmyscience.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/red-lipstick-the-genital-echo-o-o-o/amp/

According to Desmond Morris, a British zoologist, it’s all in the lips: a woman’s facial lips have become a ‘genital echo’ which “resemble the female labia in their texture, thickness, and colour”

I would say it's associated with youth and living in a society that prizes youth above all in women...

Should say "lips wearing makeup on face"

Yes lips on face are meant to subconsciously mimic aroused labia. That's why red/pink/purple lipstick as well as full lips are what looks most attractive.
I think lip filler is just a continuation of that.

:www.google.co.uk/amp/s/yesterface.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/why-do-women-wear-red-lipstick/amp/

And may I point out that here in the feminism section, no one is interested in whether something is your choosey choice?

We do analysis of society in general here. Your individual choosey choice doesn't look so choosey choicy anymore when one sees that for some weird reason many, many, many people make the same choosey choices despite that not having been the case a few years earlier.

I've always presumed that the purchasers of this "enhancement" probably wanted moderate fullness, to avoid the thin lipped look, but got a bit more than they bargained for, e.g. Lesley Ash. Maybe if you develop "cats bum" lines they need to use a lot of filler to pull them out?

Wanting fuller lips doesn't at all mean you want to work in the porn industry! Where the hell did you get that from?

However, it's not a particularly contentious opinion to recognise that physical fashion often starts with the porn industry.

You find that highly offensive? Really?

Surely a 'no!' Would suffice.
I don't think they are designed to look like labia on a face either.

@Datun I fully trim my 'bush' because I find it more comfortable, I do not want a national forest between my legs or spiders legs poking out the sides of my underwear thank you.

'It must be porn related'
'Are they designed to look like labia on the face?'

This.

Did somebody really say "are you jealous" in the feminism section ?

How is she being highly offensive?
Have you never discussed fashion or style before?

Why do you think she is jealous, quite? Do you have reason to believe the op wants fillers but is too poor or for some reason unable to source them?

I think you are being highly offensive, its personal opinion.

Just because someone wants fuller lips does not mean they are in the porn industry

I'd like a little plumping in my top lip tbh. It's quite thin and disappears at the hint of a smile. My bottom lip is fuller so it looks uneven. I don't like thins lips. It makes some people look mealy mouthed and miserable sometimes. I don't however want a job in the porn industry, nor the look of a fanny on my face, nor and I wanting to give out the impression that I'm sexual available (). I'm also over 6ft and fairly confident in myself so the whole vulnerable with low self esteem doesn't really apply either.

A spiteful post OP. Do you enjoy digging out other women for the personal choices they make?

I completely agree it's porn lead. Where else on the planet would you be able to find out the myriad and ever changing ways women are trimming their bush, bleaching bits of themselves, having fake boobs, lip fillers, etc.

As soon as it's in the media, on TV, magazines, etc, you can bet your life it's already been in porn for five years.

I've never spoken to a man who finds it attractive so that's confusing

I suppose you just speak to the wrong men.

I'm pretty sure this comes from porn. Can remember having seen such lips combined with silicone breasts.

Many men you may meet in real life also don't find ultra-large breasts of the artificial kind attractive, but clearly, there's a demand for it.

Nothing is "just fashion", fashion doesn't exist in a vacuum.

Aridane

That's true. You also get the hooded eyes, pale face, and high forehead. Fashion again.

I think originally having lip fillers was meant to indicate youth. Because the older you get the thinner your lips become.

And, like a lot of these things, it has just fallen into a fashion. But it's a fashion dictated by what is perceived as being attractive to men.

Which as you say, is an odd one, because lots of men don't like it.

Although, many men fall into the mistake of thinking a woman has no make up on, when she has actually spent hours contriving a very natural look.

It might be that they just don't like the over exaggerated ones. But don't notice the more natural lip fillers.

A bit off topic - have you over noticed how in the Tudor portraits of Heny VIII's wifes and other notable women of that period how they all have very thin lips

I would assume women who have lip fillers just think it looks nice or are following the fashion for this type of lip

How patronising!

Are you jealous?

This is a joke, yes?

Yes, larger lips are supposed to represent engorged labia, hence wearing lip colours that make your lips appear larger. Fuller lips are associated with youth and health, therefore having lip fillers is supposed to make you look young, healthy and able to bear children.

I suppose women might want to think they're younger and healthier than they are for their own reasons. I can't think of any, but it's not outwith the realms of possibility that other women might.