Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Oh ffs.

64 replies

Neverknowing · 10/08/2017 20:44

I've just seen this photo on FB. It's made me irrationally angry, men in the comments talking about how women 'make up rapes' and some even saying it protects both men and women somehow..?
So. Instead of focusing on the issue of men raping women we should get women to sign pieces of paper to say it's fine?
I can't even put into words all the reasons this is fucked up.

Oh ffs.
OP posts:
DJBaggySmalls · 11/08/2017 01:13

There was a 'consent condom' produced at one point. The packet recorded your fingerprint and the date, and that was somehow supposed to prove you have consented.

www.menstuff.org/archives/consentcondoms.html

DeleteOrDecay · 10/08/2017 23:15

Ugh. Stop the world I want to get off.

VestalVirgin · 10/08/2017 22:43

Oh, I am perfectly aware that no one cares about women, and therefore, no one would like my decisions.

Still, I would make them.

Kursk · 10/08/2017 22:20

VestalVirgin

The military wouldn't want to become segregated. It's too complicated. In the field everyone is treated the same.

The military focuses on the practical stuff. People's feelings don't matter. Hence why American soldiers were GI's stands for General Issue

VestalVirgin · 10/08/2017 21:58

No military is perfect, but the only military where women cannot serve alongside males in forward operating bases in the US. Because, even though they won't investigate properly, even the chain of command knows that rape is endemic.

To be honest, if I were in the position to decide things, I would completely separate female soldiers from male soldiers. Like, completely different chains of command, everything. Everywhere.

Because men rape, it is bad enough on uni campuses, and the military attracts a kind of man that's if at all possible even worse.

And we all know how unlikely it is that a rapist will be properly punished.

Xenophile · 10/08/2017 21:24

The really sickening thing is that this is a US Military meme.

In the US military, there is an eye poppingly high proportion of female service persons having been the victim of sexual assault or rape. And yet, there is a belief that, along with campus rape, these are "women changing their minds" because women always lie about having been raped.

No military is perfect, but the only military where women cannot serve alongside males in forward operating bases in the US. Because, even though they won't investigate properly, even the chain of command knows that rape is endemic.

Plus what everyone else has said.

AssassinatedBeauty · 10/08/2017 21:21

It's telling that it says "do not confess..." - what to? Why would confessing even be relevant, it's not as if they'll be raping anyone, surely?

DoesAnyoneReadTheseThings · 10/08/2017 21:15

What if you change your mind during? Or don't want to do a particular 'act'? They can just 'keep going' cos the woman signed? Idiotic.

Original poster
Neverknowing · 10/08/2017 21:03

It's only a meme by the way. Ofc it's not a real thing at all but it's the entitled comments that have annoyed me.
It's insane to me that so many men really have this way of thinking. I'm honestly sad.

OP posts:
Original poster
Neverknowing · 10/08/2017 21:01

Exactly.
A rapist wouldn't be above forcing sex on someone but would obviously be above forcing you to sign a piece of paper.
This annoys me because it's the idea that doesn't matter, it's the men who are accused of rape that are the losers.

OP posts:
PricklyBall · 10/08/2017 20:59

Well, if nothing else, you know to walk away from any encounter with a bloke who produces one of these. In fact, don't walk, run like the wind.

I can't believe it's an official document though - time to check Snopes, I think.

MsPassepartout · 10/08/2017 20:47

Lovely.

So, how exactly do they intend to prove that the woman who signed this didn't do so under duress, or while drunk / high?

Kursk · 10/08/2017 20:47

Looks like it's the military issuing it

GreenTulips · 10/08/2017 20:45

That would be funny if not was a joke - if you are threatened or drunk it's hardly going to be relevant isbit?

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

Join Mumsnet Log In

This thread is closed and is no longer accepting replies. Click here to start a new thread.

Swipe left for the next trending thread