Do teenagers think feminism is ''uncool"?

I get the impression that there are 'Tumblr feminists' who are annoying, over-the-top, whining about men all the time which puts teens off the feminist tag.

Considering that the tumblrists are more likely to be penis-worshipping libfems who whine about "cismen", I kinda get that.

Also, when discussing unwanted sexual harassment some boys (against feminism) had argued "its only seen as harassment when catcalling is done by an unattractive male"

Considering that men who sexually harrass women make themselves unattractive by that very act, that's rather circular logic.

I'm not very good at explaining but I don't think this sort of "empowering" feminism is very beneficial (but at the same time I guess it's a start and it's nice to have more teen feminists)

I totally get what you mean. But I don't think it is a start, but quite the opposite, it is harmful, because this brand of "feminism" is actually actively antifeminist, as it is pro-prostitution, for example. Not to mention the whole transnonsense that erodes all the rights for women actual feminism fought for.

Noloveofmine Ds1 is super rigid in his thinking. He seems to be respectful of his female friends, is a good cook and does as many domestic chores as his sister so considers that plenty.
He is sympathetic to the plight of women in poorer countries but will state that there's nothing that he in the UK can do and end the conversation there.
He's seen his dad and I break up 5 years ago and all the sexism that has resulted but is still unconvinced because I'm good at my role and the girls he know are just as sporty, intelligent... as he is.

Whereas that sentiment from boys in itself is an example of misogyny and entitlement. How abhorrent. Sexual harassment is awful and often intimidating.

Also, when discussing unwanted sexual harassment some boys (against feminism) had argued "its only seen as harassment when catcalling is done by an unattractive male"

This I hear a lot too. And they always have that one example to "prove" it.

Well I'm a 20 year old Sociology student so I know many teenage feminists. Although, in one seminar there were still many who thought there wasn't a need for feminism anymore, and what I found even more disappointing was that some girls remained quiet when asked if they were a feminist as if they were paranoid to say their true views, or be seen as 'uncool'/

Also, when discussing unwanted sexual harassment some boys (against feminism) had argued "its only seen as harassment when catcalling is done by an unattractive male"

However, I've noticed as others have said in this thread liberal feminism is more popular with teenage feminists. Radical is often regarded as 'man hating'. Also, another thing that slightly irritates me is that I know lots of my peers who like to use this positive Kardashian/Beyoncé inspired feminism to explain why they have the right to wear whatever they want (fair enough, I will never judge a woman for what she wears) but will disappear when it comes to more pressing matters. I'm not very good at explaining but I don't think this sort of "empowering" feminism is very beneficial (but at the same time I guess it's a start and it's nice to have more teen feminists)

Whoop whoop, I went to school in Southeast London, too!

And I suppose now that you mention the examples yes, those kinds of guys are many, too. I wonder how my mother raised me, I don't remember her doing any teaching or explaining in this matter. What did that mom do? Has the boy changed? Often mothers can be "not my baby".

"They say that when they think of feminism, all they think of is radical feminism"

Interesting. What do they say when you ask them what they mean by "radical feminism"?

Glad to hear the girls were having none of that nonsense Thegiantofillinois.

My dd gets it but being smaller and less aggressive than her brother, won't argue with him which is fine. She has seen and experienced sexism sadly which her brother just rolls his eyes at.

That must be incredibly frustrating for her. I find it enraging enough that I experience sexism, it would upset me even more if my brothers dismissed it. Can you discuss this with him? Perhaps point out commonplace sexism and how it feels for his sister to want support at home and be dismissed by him? Not for me to say of course but I just know how much that'd get to me.

My year elevens say that they don't believe in what it has become. They say that when they think of feminism, all they think of is radical feminism. They believe in equal rights and fairness, but not radical feminism

I overheard my son watching a video by a US guy trolling radfems. He is anti the homophobic and racist stuff that these people say but believes the other messages that these guys pedal - primarily that sexism is a myth. Boils my piss but he really thinks that feminism is something that's only needed in poor countries.

My dd gets it but being smaller and less aggressive than her brother, won't argue with him which is fine. She has seen and experienced sexism sadly which her brother just rolls his eyes at.

I did have an alpha type boy who told me that women should be in the kitchen. The girlsshoutedd him down and I had great plea s ure telling his mum on parents' evening.

They should fantastic motherinferior, as does their school!

I have two feminist daughters aged 14 and 16. The younger one is particularly fond of wearing her 'this is what a feminist looks like' Tshirt.

Their school - a large single-sex comp in a non-leafy south east London area - is also v pro-feminist, explicitly so.

I'd say their friends were all feminists too. A gang of them went on the women's march.

I know "quieter, more sensitive" boys who are regular attendees at the Feminist Society at a boys' school (which has it jointly with their sister school, meetings alternating at each). It was some of the more brash, vocal boys who decided to crash the first couple of meetings with comments such as "women just aren't as good", "men are born to lead" and "women should be in the kitchen not at work".

"Interestingly, these are often the quieter,more sensitive boys who I would have thoughg would be more supportive." - No, they are the ones that aren't popular at school, don't get laid and become bitter.

Those are exactly the type I would expect to be like that.

The other type might be the ones that take things for granted and thus display chauvinistic/misogynistic behavior, but wouldn't cry about how bad men's lifes are.

I've actually experienced the opposite; in fact the boys I'm friends with are in the main the "quieter, more sensitive" type! The younger of my brothers also is so hopefully he's having positive influence at home The boys I've come across who use terms like "feminazis" and general misogyny have been ones who post rape jokes and memes online, harass girls at parties, think nothing of "groping", "rank" girls compiling lists and so forth. I suppose it shows you can't necessarily predict who will harbour misogynist sentiment as it's so pernicious.

Many teens are more concerned with trans-rights and are being fed a diet of nonsense about this and mental illness.

I think I would be questioning my parenting if I had children who thought of feminists as man hating feminazis.

Fine not to have thought about the issues much yet, or to think that feminism isn't relevant to them ( they will learn!) but to be actually aggressively hostile to the idea? Wow.........

The girls I know don't think it's relevant. So m e think they're already equal, so what's the point? More worrying to me are the boys who bang on about 'feminazis' and lack of men's rights. Interestingly, these are often the quieter,more sensitive boys who I would have thoughg would be more supportive.

My teenage Dd and her friends describe themselves as feminists, they are quite forceful about it, my teen ds's are supportive of it they had no choice

a vision of feminists as violent and crazy men haters

Quite something this is said of feminists when there's so much violent misogyny out there, manifesting itself in near constant violence against women and girls.

We have plenty of girls of that age who come along to ours as well Painfulpain!

And my DD, IS very concerned with 'cool'!

My 13 year old goes to FemSoc

I think it's less cool amongst 20-30 year olds.