Women only swimming stopped

38 hours a week when you can swim with your child at our local pool during the summer holidays, none are women only. There is adult only every day for an hour.

Just looked at a random pool near me 15 sessions where @Oliversmumsarmy could swim with her son, public swimming,lane swimming with children and family swimming. And just one session for ladies only. Not feeling the sympathy tbh.

@OlennasWimple yes! He's wonderful. Loved his satirical show on BBC too.

I go swimming with ds. So wouldn't use the women only sessions. I really cant see the problem. You are under water and no one can see anything. I wear a towel till I get to the pool then leave it on the side then dive in.
In answer to someone on the first page. I am overweight and have never had any issues with men saying anything it is always women who are the nasty ones.

Did you read the thread? Just because YOU don't feel you personally need women's only sessions doesn't mean no one else should get to benefit from them.

It's this sort of closed minded attitude that causes stuff like this to happen. For some strange reason, some people out there don't like things happening unless it benefits them personally. It's like people get jealous when someone else gets something that they don't/can't have. Even something as insignificant as a one hour swimming session a week. It's like when a sibling suddenly wants to play with the toy they were previously ignoring because their little sibling started playing with it. It truly is pathetic.

It's not difficult to understand that there are many genuine reasons for women only swimming sessions and wanting to take them away because you can't look outside of your little bubble and see that although it doesn't benefit you, it does benefit many other women is just selfish.

Personally think that the main pool should be open to all every day to everyone and the training pool used for lessons, special sessions etc

This is not the case in my council run pool and it leaves less than 3 hrs of family swim available in total to working people in a 7 day week

the actual Twitter thread is quite amusing too

Did you see what happened when Frankie Boyle supported the petition on Twitter?

She asked a question (admittedly rhetorical) and I answered it.
I didn't intend any more to it than that with regard to wider relevance.

I don't see it as being relevant to women only swimming sessions and her point which I agree with on golf clubs and members clubs which won't be forced to change but alright.

Only problem i have is how do they check you're trans? I could pitch up saying i'm scott, i'm male and you're a bigot if you say otherwise.

Well, yes, but you won't do that, now, will you? You have zero reason to invade their space. Unless you can only swim at that time, which is unlikely.
And they don't want physical protection from people who are not trans. They are not afraid of radical feminists even.
What they are afraid of is radical feminists talking.

And you cannot criticise genderism at such a group without automatically outing yourself.

I've already answered that, NoLove.
My comment was in response to DrinkFeckArseGirls' comment (which I quoted).

oliver that's the same for everyone though. It's not just women's only sessions, there is aquafit, over 50 classes, swimming clubs, school classes, etc. Why pick on the women's sessions?
Pools do rely on block bookings to make money. That does limit the amount of freeswimming available, unfortunately.

What was your point regarding men losing supposedly "male only spaces" (which pubs haven't been for decades anyway) in the context of women only swimming being stopped whilst men only members and golf clubs continue, in the case of the former, unabated?

Again it sounds as if you're lamenting men losing this "right".

I've specifically said the opposite of that.
Sounds like you're deliberately trying to misinterpret what I've said.

Most men couldn't get in there either!

The point is that they are legally allowed to exclude women from ever being members. Any male theoretically could become one (some men who are come from working class backgrounds), no female could.

Looks like the working class men lost their right to exclude women but the upper classes to go to keep theirs.

Again it sounds as if you're lamenting men losing this "right".

My problem would be that having a ds it would impact him. After you have given 1 hour to this group and an hour to that group the number of hours we can both swim is reduced and reduced. At some points during the day there is barely 1/2 hour when we can go. We would both like to go daily but by the time you block out when the pool is not open to the public and school and after school activities you are left with 1 session per week.

Interesting how the remaining men only spaces are all very upper class - the Garrick Club! Most men couldn't get in there either! And golf clubs.
Looks like the working class men lost their right to exclude women but the upper classes to go to keep theirs.

A lot of old fashioned pubs used to have a snug, which was used by men, and a lounge or saloon bar which was used by women and mixed sex groups. The snugs were quite rough and the lounge bar was nicer decorated and had a more upmarket feel. Yes it was quite sexist but I suppose it went along with the whole 'half a pint for the lady' thing.
Pub landlords did use to have a lot of say over what went on in their premises, and if they wanted men only areas then thats what happened.
Of course things have changed now, partly because pubs have to do whatever they can to stay open.

It's not illegal though. There are still men only golf clubs and men only clubs, they're not going to change any time soon. There are men only organisations too, like the Masons and the Round Table.

There are numerous members' clubs which refuse to admit women. Some won't even allow women as guests and would never even have a vote on allowing women. The only one which has had a vote at all recently - The Garrick Club - voted not to allow women to join as members. Many hugely powerful and influential men belong to this club including QCs, judges and well known broadcasters. I don't see much societal pressure on them when these men thrive in their careers and in some cases are paid fortunes by, for example in some cases, the BBC despite belonging to a club which doesn't allow women to join. A fair few golf clubs still don't permit women to join either.

Hardly worth mentioning except to speak of how abhorrent this was; likewise with "male only spaces".

It's worth mentioning when someone states:
if we complain about men only spaces (golf clubs?), will they be closed too?

It seems to me, yes! They have been and are being closed. There is a lot of pressure on golf clubs to admit women now.
So it's relevant to this discussion, because men only bars and clubs are (rightfully) being closed due to societal pressure.
Of course, men don't need safe spaces in the same way women do, so it's quite right that they don't exclude women - and illegal.

oliversarmy so because you don't have a problem with mixed sex sessions no else should?

Plus there aren't many instances at all of female only spaces and women are losing the few there are.

There was a time pubs could ban POC and Irish people. There were instances of white British only spaces. Hardly worth mentioning except to speak of how abhorrent this was; likewise with "male only spaces".

There's a transgender session near me.

Only problem i have is how do they check you're trans? I could pitch up saying i'm scott, i'm male and you're a bigot if you say otherwise.