"Woman" caught with extreme animal porn collection

Male and female prison guards work in both male and female estates, but should not normally be involved in intimate searches or similar activities.

My mistake, Saughton does have a female hall!

Oh well that's one thing I suppose Betsy. Just wondering why there are female prison guards in that case?

He was in Glenochil and is now in Saughton, both of which are male estates. Which is puzzling, since the Scottish Prison Service has a published policy of housing by self-ID of gender - and he is insisting his name is Tiffany!

More about Andrew Burns: www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/too-dangerous-dock-prisoner-andrew-10272096

And this total psycho is being held in a woman's prison? Jesus :(

I'm thinking a link to that Daily Record article in letters to MPs would neatly demonstrate the problems of the proposed self-ID legislation. If they go through, female (sex) prison officers would have no recourse to challenge the practice with their union & could find themselves subject to disciplinary or legal sanctions. Another case for the "it'll never happen (women's concerns are unfounded)" folder.

From Scotland's Daily Record

Another case from the last year which fits this offence is Alice Smith article here

All this is really distorting the stats!

I've been going round in circles on ons.gov.uk trying to find the source for 6 women per year committing this crime. Got stats for the last 10 years for the crime of 'Obscene publications, etc and protected sexual material' but it's not broken down into M/F. Have asked the person who tweeted about this for the source, but just wondered if anyone else looked for them?

Seeingadistance You're right about rape definition in England & Wales, but very rarely a woman can be prosecuted for the crime as an accessory for assisting a man to commit a rape.

Interestingly, the law in E&W refers to 'his' penis, but the law in Scotland refers to 'a person's' penis - so I guess, technically a TIF could be prosecuted for rape.

I'm finding it really hard to read or participate in threads about trans, because it makes me so incredibly angry, and it seems to be everywhere. I've been avoiding these threads, and I've only read the first page of this one.

But, what I wanted to say was that this reminded me of a comment I saw on Gender Critical Reddit - about the way in which men are taking over women's spaces. Different types of space were listed, including, and this is my point - statistical spaces.

Actually, I was thinking about this earlier today for some reason. And wondering what legal contortions are going to have to be performed to enable the recording of statistics of rapes committed by women. I'm in the UK, where as I understand it, rape can only be committed by a man, i.e., a human being who has a penis.

Sorry if this is a bit scrambled. Was up at 5am today to travel back from holiday in Iceland.

It's also very easy for a man to go through birth records and find the name of a woman with the same birth date. He can have his birth cert changed to that woman's name. When he commits a crime, the papers will say "Wendy Jones, 54" and that's what will be on the record. Innocent woman will have her identity permanently confused with a perverted man in a dress. And when your descendants research you, they will find out that you were a sex offender.

And this is the terrifying thing. Unless we have photos or there is stuff on social media, the truth is hidden. The damage to women is incalculable

Indeed. I took the figures from someone on twitter who posted stats in response to the Wendy Jones case. She said there were 61 cases over the last 10 years, so should be more accurate than just looking at the last year. But we will never know for sure

I don't suppose that any of this is public? I'd love to do some tracing of the individuals involved.

Occasionally you'll get some wanker MRA on here pointing out that women use porn too, and, in fact how it's on the increase. MSM also brings it up, occasionally.

How absolutely galling is it, if the statistics are actually skewed because of identity politics?

I can't believe there is absolutely no way of knowing. That's dangerous.

Are they suddenly going to be implementing different policies in sex education because of the increase of females accessing porn? Without knowing if it's true?

I dunno Betsy - the changes were implemented in 2004 so theoretically all 61 women in the last 10 years could be male. I doubt it's that extreme but I bet a large proportion are.

Indeed. I took the figures from someone on twitter who posted stats in response to the Wendy Jones case. She said there were 61 cases over the last 10 years, so should be more accurate than just looking at the last year. But we will never know for sure.

With regards to skewing of the statistics, it is worth pointing out that the average number of women convicted of extreme porn possession is 6 per year. Wendy Jones and now Kira Leverton have just increased the number of women committing this crime by 33% this year!

We can't be sure that those 6 are all women either. I'd bet that at least some are trans-identified males. Jones and Leverton are just the ones we know about.

YY spell fail. Bed

Fuck. That's worth invesigating

Is it actually recorded? Anywhere?

I don't think so Datun. For reporting and statistical purposes, they are women with no distinction made. Shocking isn't it?

If someone has made an application for a gender recognition certificate, media disclosure (or indeed almost any disclosure) is prohibited by the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

Application!?? So that application could have been unsuccessful, and the person is still legally their birth sex/gender, if they're referring to themselves as the opposite the media has to play along? Just when you think your brain can't explode any more.

This is why the "trans women are the most marginalised group....highest risk of suicide....highest rate of murder...." stuff annoys me. Because in the UK there is no way to know and the TRA movement doesn't want you to know by insisting the stats are lumped with women.
So you can't talk about violence to women without "centering" ffs transwomen as they "have highest murder rates". With no actual evidence.
Really annoys me.

Is it actually recorded? Anywhere?

Pawpainting

Fucking hell! And I should imagine it's completely illegal to ask whether those people are transwomen?

..too many rs!