Identiy Politics

I wish he had let them talk more. I don't think they were given a big enough rope there.

Another one here. It just beggar's belief - "but what about it what WE want?! Listen to US!" So bloody entitled. Nevermind the fact that other people have rights too!

The whole "it's not hurting you so why do you care" culture is so dangerous. We all have a responsibility to speak up when we see things that aren't right even if we're not directly affected by them. This creeping in of control over language is so insidious, ultimately it will effect us all but these deluded kids can't see that.

- I think it was interesting that a few of them were aware that they would agree only because it wasn't harmful to anyone else, even if clearly it wasn't the truth

Agreed.

Since when did lying, and accepting a lie, however outrageous, become completely acceptable as long as it's not harmful?

How can harm be the determinant of truth?

We are not talking, does my bum look big in this?

This is wholesale brainwashing.

And it DOES harm. It's changing laws for fuck's sake.

ROFL - that was fantastic - I definitely think some cogs started turning for a couple of them (if only they'd keep turning) - I think it was interesting that a few of them were aware that they would agree only because it wasn't harmful to anyone else, even if clearly it wasn't the truth

That's exactly what I said to her, magical thinking. She just doesn't get it and gets so angry with me when I talk about it. My generation just don't get it apparently and it's just like how homosexuality used to be seen...I despair!
Her older sisters are more open to critical thinking so maybe maturity will bring her to peak trans.

Critical thinking seems to have gone out of fashion.

ludog it's magical thinking isn't it?

"That I would question"

"Why?"

"Because you're not"

But only when he starts asserting that he 6' 5.

Do you think any of them reflected afterwards and started to doubt the doctrine?

Sweet jebus
Mind you, I had an argument with my 16 year old about this yesterday.Me:" It's not possible to change sex, you can change outward appearance so that you LOOK like the opposite sex but you remain male or female" Dd:" if you've had surgery you ARE the opposite sex" Me: "So, if I had to have a mastectomy and a hysterectomy would that mean I'm now a man?" Dd:"Obviously not" Me: "Why, if I've removed my female organs?" Dd:"Because you don't want to be a man"

what the fuck is happening?

Collidascope

That's very true. Its bloody brainwashing. The trigger word is 'identify' after that you can say what you like and they have to agree.

If he'd started out with the 6 foot 5 statement, they'd have said that he wasn't. As he started it off with "I'm a woman" and they all agreed, they had no choice but to follow him down the rabbit hole for everything else. The lack of logic is just breathtaking.

God they all sound bloody ridiculous skirting around the questions like that.

Their class discussions must be really boring.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. Cab you imagine trying to report a crime - "can you describe the perpetrator?"
"erm, they were a man, no a woman... No a man, oh I just couldn't tell! How would I know?!"

This one is interesting too. You know how old fogies say they must be making exams easier? I am now officially an old fogey.

Word of caution those videos are made by this bunch.

www.fpiw.org/our-issues/

Thanks for sharing it though assigned, I'm going to share this separately with a few people myself.

Oh for fucks sake, they're all so bloody worried about offending people by STATING FACTS!! Arghhh I'm so fed up with all this nonsense now, seriously, where is it going to end?!?!