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Another woman being harrassed for daring to question transideology needs your voice.

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Jog22 · 19/07/2017 14:31

Apparently you're not allowed to say that lesbians have the right to refuse sexual relations with people with penises. Martha Harvey's being bullied merely for posting an article which contained this daring assertion.

www.feministcurrent.com/2017/07/18/open-letter-support-martha-harvey/

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FerretsAreFeminists · 20/07/2017 11:24

Just a thought, but wouldn't that also means that trans rights and gay rights conflict?

I know we've spoken about how trans rights conflict with womens rights and how you can't protect both gender identity and sex because they conflict but could the same not be said for trans rights and gay rights?

I haven't really thought about it this way before but I struggle to see how you can protect both sexuality and gender identity. If we accept that people should identify however they want and that some men have vaginas and some women have penises then how can we define sexuality and what homo and heterosexuality is?

Am I making any sense?

FerretsAreFeminists · 20/07/2017 11:19

I know the twatactivists think lesbians should sleep with transwomen but surely the a normal sane person wouldn't and would agree that it would be insanity to expect them to?

Datun · 20/07/2017 08:05

Surely people don't seriously expect lesbians to sleep with people who are clearly biologically male?

The people who want ze sex definitely do. It's causing others to reach peak trans, I believe.

Although I'm incredulous how people can readily agree that transwomen are women, and then suddenly disagree that lesbians should view them as sexual partners. Well which is it? The logic is so glaringly absent.

On this dating website the user set her search to women only, not to be seen by straight people. All these people identify as trans and lesbians.

Another woman being harrassed for daring to question transideology needs your voice.
ArcheryAnnie · 20/07/2017 00:25

Has anyone tried posting to the facebook page?

FerretsAreFeminists · 19/07/2017 23:47

I can't believe she bloody apologised Angry

Surely people don't seriously expect lesbians to sleep with people who are clearly biologically male?

PlymouthMaid1 · 19/07/2017 23:09

Terrible but also surely nobody should be expected to sleep with someone they dont want to, bepenised or not.

TalkingintheDark · 19/07/2017 23:04

OMG that apology is almost the worst part of it, and the whole thing is just fucking vile. That's basically Winston Smith's capitulation to Big Brother, right there. That poor woman.

A little part of me hopes that she didn't mean a word of it and it was a calculated move, deliberately over the top to parody those evil fuckers and their malignant attitudes, but I fear that's a vain hope.

VestalVirgin · 19/07/2017 19:25

You know what's really, really bad?

I am afraid of putting my name on that list. Because I fear being attacked for it. And I don't even live in the US or the UK. Sad

Will try to work up the courage, though.

Datun · 19/07/2017 17:22

Unfortunately she subsequently issued a grovelling apology. Whether it was to keep her job, or whether she was got at, I don't know.

Another woman being harrassed for daring to question transideology needs your voice.
Jog22 · 19/07/2017 15:07

At this rate most lesbians will also be needing a fuck of a lot of valium just to get through a night out.

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AssignedMentalAtBirth · 19/07/2017 15:05

I'm well on my way to needing Valium today

WhattheChuff · 19/07/2017 15:02

Why should one vocal minority get to speak on behalf of all LGBT people? Why should that group be permitted to dictate what conversations are allowed to happen among LGBT people? Why is this group being permitted to attack, threaten, and silence a lesbian woman, who has worked for decades, on behalf of LGBT people, simply because they don’t like the kinds of articles she reads?

The above is from the article.

Why can't lesbians sleep with who they are sexually attracted to? Why is this transphobic?