Teen Vogue article

Ah, same old misogyny, designer clothes.

Sigh.

Ok, that's just bloody rude.

He seems a delight Datun.

This is the response to complaints from the Teen Vogue editor, a gay man. He also said "...feminism is liberation not just for women, but for people in general..."

I appreciate that consenting adults are allowed to practise it but my personal opinion is that I do not want to do it and I object to it being 'normalised' for anyone, let alone promoting it as something young girls should do.

One of my husband's female friends asked him recently if we had anal - her husband had nagged her so persistently about it that she gave in and agreed to it, she cried the whole time but he carried on. My husband very firmly said that wasn't right. She's mid thirties and felt bullied, imagine the pressure teens feel (and I speak as someone who got pressured into a hell of a lot by my abusive teenage boyfriend and couldn't have said no).

No need to apologise about the rose thing Datun, I'd much rather discover it via a written description on here than see anything, ANYTHING visual related to that.

No. If your friends know then that's a reason to be concerned. It is an important thread, though.

You were entirely justified in your criticism of your friend. You haven't outed her, so there is no harm done. And it's been a good thread

Unless your friend knows you post here I can't see what the problem is?

Women are allowed to be critical of other women - it does not automatically equate to being bitchy.

nolove

It's an important thread.

You can ask HQ to change the title to something along the lines of Teen Vogue Anal Sex. And you can have your opening post deleted at your request.

Then the rest can stand?

Absolutely what Datun, M0stly, yetanother, Nolove and others have said. It's a completely bonkers article.

I can only hope that teenagers do what teenagers do best, and decide that if old, boring people are recommending they do something, then they should avoid it at all costs, because it's probably crap. I can hope.

FFS can we please call a spade a spade?!

It is known the world fucking over that teenage girls are pressured into doing things they are not willing to do and that they often give in because they want to please the boy and they have been told not to be a pricktease.

This article does encourage it with words like "awesome" and in the way it refuses to recognise the social pressures girls face because it can't even name girls as girls but as non-prostrate owners!

If it were accurate it would have stuff in there about the dangers: the UTIs, the possibility of fissures, the increased likelihood of faecal incontinence.

It's just another pressure on girls and it should fuck right off.

NoLoveofMine There were comments supporting that in The Hunting Ground. Its come under fire for being inaccurate, but the interviews with college boys are interesting.
One describes how in his male frat house, they had a meeting once a week to discuss their conquests, and they were encouraged to try to have anal sex with the girls. It sounded a lot like grooming with the older frat members putting on the pressure.

Its on Netflix UK.

I agree with Datun.

DJ

From that article:

The interviewed young people rarely spoke of anal sex “in terms of mutual exploration of sexual pleasure”, while condoms were also often not used.

My youth was dogged by the threat of AIDS.

Up until then, if a girl took a condom out with her in her handbag, she was considered to be sexually promiscuous, a bad thing. 'Slutty'.

If a boy produced a condom, and it hadn't been prearranged, he was considered to be a bit of a chancer, a player, hoping to have sex with anyone - a numbers game.

AIDS changed all that. Condoms became respectable. Necessary. Free in bowls on bar tops and in both loos.

Not having one was deemed irresponsible. Wrap up! Double wrap!

As the threat of aids has diminished and it's not automatically a death sentence, are condoms now being considered not as necessary?