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Paris Lees article re: Ldn underground

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Ekphrasis · 14/07/2017 20:03

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/14/tfl-scrapping-ladies-and-gentlemen-gender-public-toilets?CMP=fb_gu

I'm exhausted and read half asleep - can't make head nor tale if this article.

Confused sex with gender?

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BasketOfDeplorables · 15/07/2017 00:45

I think the most that can be said in its favour is some people don't feel included by ladies and gentlemen, so wh

Terfing · 15/07/2017 00:24

I have no idea what that article was about?

Is Lees saying that there's no such thing as gender now?

Datun · 14/07/2017 23:39

Thankfully, the transgender movement and rise of intersectional feminism is making real progress in moving towards a more gender-neutral society. It’s headline news every day.

Well Lees has got that wrong for a start. Transgenderism underpins sex role stereotypes like there's no tomorrow.

What else is a woman's brain in a man's body?

enoughisenough12 · 14/07/2017 22:01

I know that the Guardian comments are normally vile but some of the ones under this article are really funny Grin

BasketOfDeplorables · 14/07/2017 21:10

I don't this is coherent - choosing a gender isn't 'doing away' with gender.

I really hate this idea that gender is a spectrum. A spectrum would have the extremes of feminine and masculine at either end - where do we place stuff on this spectrum? Is lipstick more feminine than sewing? Are we going to separate kilts worn by men and kilts worn by women to different ends? Where is gardening?

Is it a points based system? Does shifting furniture in a dress even things out to the same as owning a Labrador?

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Ekphrasis · 14/07/2017 20:05

Some of it I agree with, other parts really don't make sense in terms of how I see the real world working.

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