"Break the silence around rape and violence against women" but don't mention grooming gang rape and violence against girls

I totally agree about the right wing, Pooch. I remember Allison Pearson being very much feted on the Cologne threads for being one of the few journalists to take the situation seriously... except that when you look at her overall output, you find that this isn't what she was doing at all. Basically her articles divide into "rape with brown perpetrator = terrible crime, 'aledged' rape with white perpetrator = victim bears some of the blame for being drunk, dressed in skimpy skirt, I despair for the future of my sons etc. etc., woman in hijab = should be banned..." So she wasn't doing brave campaigning journalism on Cologne (even though heaven knows such journalism badly needed to be done), it was same-old-same-old for her general ideology of "white men first, well-behaved white women trailing in a poor second, everyone else firmly at the bottom of the heap."

It's very frustrating and I agree that the Guardian editorial policy is misogynistic and utterly blind to it. It was always my go to paper, but not any more.

However, in balance, I am feeling frustration about the battleground of women's rights being alternatively courted and betrayed by both ends of the political spectrum. I was listening to a podcast this morning (Sam Harris talking to Douglas Murray, because sometimes I like to shout at my phone ) who were both happy to pick up on the issues around the reporting of the Rotheram scandal where it suited to talk about the misogyny of islam, but who manifestly couldn't give much of a shiny shite about women's issues in any other context.

I'm not sure which is worse to be honest - the left winger who earnestly says he is all for women's rights, but then forgets all about them in favour of religious "tolerance", or the right winger who laughs at feminists, but then suddenly has an epiphany on their importance where there's a point to be scored against immigration.

In my experience, both, MrsTP - the Guardian mods have a knee jerk reaction. A blatantly Islamophobic comment would get deleted, but so too would one which read "While male sexual violence is a problem the world over, including organised male sexual violence (e.g. "pulling a train" at frat parties), taharrush gamea (socially sanctioned sexual harrassment and assault intended to function as corrective rape and limit women's access to the public sphere) is a new phenomenon in Europe and as such deserves more discussion."

The Guardian hates women who don't willingly acquiesce to playing some sex pozzy handmaiden role (with the exception of a small handful of their writers - I still love Hadders!)

I agree. I think it's perfectly possible to point out tensions between culture/religion and sex without sidelining and ignoring one of those groups.

I think The Guardian and the BBC are misogynists. But more than that they are cowards. It's safer to treat women poorly.

Fair question, MrsTP

Though you've put your finger on a particular Guardian blind spot: when there's a tension between women's rights and Islam, they invariably choose to support Islam

"posting a comment about breaking the silence in certain sections of the media about recent grooming gang cases (eg Oxford and Huddersfield) will get you deleted."

I generally agree that The Guardian (and the BBC for that matter) will push any woman under the bus for anyone else. But what kinds of comment are being deleted? Comments that talk about it or comments that say that Islam makes men into rapists? Because I've read both sorts online...

Me too, Terfing, however much they shake their collecting bucket at the bottom of every web page now...

I i used to subscribe to the Guardian, but I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss these days...

They are a shameful, victim-blaming, misogynistic, publication.

Can you imagine any other form of segregation being acceptable for a Labour party rally?

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"posting a comment about breaking the silence in certain sections of the media about recent grooming gang cases (eg Oxford and Huddersfield) will get you deleted."

Will it? Completely outrageous. But I remember the same during the Cologne attacks. White western women should put up with sexual abuse it seems. And the Guardian was one of the worst. Why are women so utterly irrelevant and unvalued by the left wing ?

This is 'Comment is Free' which is a guest writer rather than Guardian team.
Remembering Srebrenica are doing great work with their Breaking the Silence campaign. Locally they have hosted events with the police and local MPs and councils - who don't really get the issue of hate crimes against women, but hopefully these events will help.