Have I been reading these boards too long?!

Surely a magazine aimed, at least partially, at under age girls, and promoting sex is a form of grooming! Who can we report this shit to?

I am feeling the rage. My friend said its "just" because my XOH was a complete bastard and NAMALT. But its not. I'm nearly 59 years old and I want to protest about self identification and lack of safe space for women and lack of resources for women's aid and bloody Tesco. I want to express anger when a man calls me a good girl and puts his hand on my back to steer me in the right direction.

Apologies - I can't remember who posted it - but once you see it, you can't unsee. Not sure what I do now. Can't see anyone to vote for. Am I too old to carry a placard?

Bechdel - sorry, autocorrected. Not sure what construction giant Bechtel's feminist film test would look like

Yes yes to that issue in Altered Carbon, @boatyardblues! I actually think it makes it look very dated compared with a lot of the new output - DH and I really noticed it. It's always the random lapdancing bar visit, isn't it?! FFS.

And while it does have some big feisty roles for women, I'm not sure it's passed the Bechtel test even now I'm two episodes off the end... they're still basically feisty fighting love interests.

Yeah, I saw a trailer today for that new film with Colin Firth where he plays the bloke who left his wife and four kids to try and sail around the world. It was all stirring music and windswept speeches about him having a big dream and being brave etc. And I just thought "you selfish prick".

Me too Gacapa. I also thought “typical willy waving project” and rolled my eyes so hard it hurt.

DH and I watched the first episode and a half of ‘Altered Carbon’, Netflix’s new super-expensive futuristic series. I told DH I was fed up of watching futuristic shows which are so male-centric, where women are still always portrayed as sex workers and strippers like nude, objectified wallpaper in the background. We debated the make nudity in this series, but DH conceded the men were leading the action in those scenes, not passive, objectified scenery. We both agreed it was depressing, sexist shit and that we’d call time on it. There’s far too much of this shit out there.

You are seeing it everywhere because it is everywhere. Suddenly it is no longer background noise. It is the male dominance framework that we live in.

WTF is 'Hotline Bling'?

Hey wimmin or whatever the correct term, I've not been drinking but I love you all, I really do. You often say what I am thinking and other times I start thinking what you are saying.

I love that there is hope.

@claritytobeclear "I think you have to remember everyone is the victim of misogynistic patriarchy. It's core values are a widespread delusion. People can perpetuate the misogynistic values in complete ignorance. No point hating people for blind ignorance, they just need to be educated." So very true.

Yeah, I saw a trailer today for that new film with Colin Firth where he plays the bloke who left his wife and four kids to try and sail around the world. It was all stirring music and windswept speeches about him having a big dream and being brave etc. And I just thought "you selfish prick".

Indeed, indeed fairnuff - but things have moved on - grinding there, slowly - in fact I know some one who used to edit BB (in the Channel 4 days) and he was advised to basically make people look like twats. And it was through my relentless feminist banging on, that he made the snap rebellious decision at work one day to let an older feminist have a full speech about her beliefs without chopping it up or making her look bad. Bless 'im.

The fact that CBB covered topics like internalised misogyny is progress - Rachel Johnson said Ann Widdicombe is a misogynist - a few years ago the word 'misogyny' wouldn't have been allowed in a light entertainment show!

You can't win em all - but we are winning some...

Guardian

Unfortunately a man won Celebrity Big Brother - Year of the Woman

Welcome to the world of clarity OP, glad to have you join the family.

I see sexism in everything, but then so many things have really improved. Scandinavian and Scandi-style crime dramas are so much better for their realism. Silent Witness is amazingly being transformed from within by Liz Carr (from what I can see).

Disney did great things with Frozen, Moana, etc. Even Star wars has women playing really important roles, visible older women in these latest films.

Strictly Come Dancing tore up the rule-book by having 2 female co-presenters - shock horror! There are more and more female 'experts' presenting great programmes, Maggie Arderin-Pocock, Mary Beard, Bettany Hughes, Alice Roberts, Janina Ramirez, Lucy Worsley, etc. Female game show hosts, Sandi Toksvik, Victoria Coren Mitchell...

Etc, etc.

So, I feel great to see that feminism is really starting to get some traction in a lot of areas. There's still miles to go obvs, but I no longer feel like hiding under the duvet and telling the entire world to f-off like I used to!

But everyone is right, once you've seen it, you can't unsee it. But us open-eyed feministy types are able to open the eyes of others and I know that my partner spots things and tells me about them. So it is not futile. It is very positive to have the scales fall.

joey I'm in the process of educating dd. Dh has heard it all from me so he knows the score and is also a supporting of womens rights.

Dd, being younger, is more liberal and accepting than us jaded 'oldies' but she's starting to open her eyes. I just want her to see that she doesn't have to accept every day misogyny.

Great article in the BBC news today which helped to demonstrate this:

Women pay more because they are female

And I now loathe panel fucking shows (except when Jo Brand is on HIGNFY).

I may have to give DP the heave ho, as he luffs a panel show. although he responds pretty well to my constant chuntering about feminism

Yes I agree OP.

Ive always felt strongly about womens rights but for much of my 20s i was vety much 'I'm an egalitarian!' But roll on 20 years and like I've taken a huge step back & seen the bigger picture and it's just not pretty.
I get very frustrated with topics like grid girls - why can't people see that whats good for an individual can still be harmful for the whole group? And cant they grasp that a society that even contemplates, let alone accepts and then defends using other human beings as pretty objects has a totally fucked up power balance?

I want everyone to step back and see but so many people form an opinion and then remain completely inflexible. Or the current status quo works perfectly well for them, thanks very much, and they have zero interest in exploring the validity of their world view.

YY OP and what's worse is that now I've started pointing it out all the time

The plus is that some female chums who used to be "FGS stop banging on about this" have had the scales fall from their eyes. One of them last weekend said to a couple of blokes we were having lunch with "Fuck off with that, you're just saying that because I'm a woman"

#proud #IblamemumsnetFWR

Yeah it does have an effect. My DP has always been quite 'old-fashioned' in his thinking, which I've always put up with. Until last week when we had a row over the Tesco court case and also whether it's fine to refer to women en masse as 'girls'. He's still a bit huffy. Influence of MN.

I worked on a history project about women in the 20th century and it was so obvious how women's rights come and go.

At the time when I was doing that job, women's rights were doing pretty well and everyone seemed to think it was just onwards and upwards.

Unfortunately I have been proved right and we have to start all over again.

It's everywhere. And it's different to movements like #everydaysexism because we're calling out more deep rooted misogyny and it doesn't necessarily always have a parallel with sexism. That might only make sense in my head!

I get what you mean completely. A couple of years back, I knew nothing about anything to do with feminism. now, I see misogyny everywhere where before I would never have questioned it. Its odd, I don't think I could go back to the mindset I had before even if I tried. Its very much like..once you see the emperor is naked, you cannot see the cloak anymore even with effort.

dick whisperer

Is that a thing? Ha, I’m one Google away from meltdown so I’ll have to give finding out more about this idiot a miss and get on with my day.

Dick whisperer, ffs.

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Music videos, rap in particular, it's all there. Quiz shows, panel shows, improving but could do better. We need to be vigilant as small gains are quickly lost.
It is nice to see more women in sport but annoying to see so many male coaches. The England football (ladies) did not have a woman in the shortlist despite many suitably qualified female applicants. But it's ok because Phil Neville can do it, he has zero coaching experience. Yay....Duhhduhhh!
Fifty shades was dodgy as well.....