Article about feminism and porn.

It definitely isn't your age Datun! I am enraged by this article and the magazine it's been published in and despair at the message it sends to its readership who are already under so much pressure and existing in a society in which they're sexualised and bombarded with messages they exist sexually for the gratification of boys and men. It's all the more horrifying a magazine which should be boosting the confidence of girls and empowering them generally, not least with sexual relationships is actually prioritising the promotion of a kind of sex many are deeply uncomfortable with over their own desires (not even mentioning the clitoris etc).

I'm also very worried by the use of "non prostate owners" and the increasing usage of this and similar terminology which erases women and girls, defining us against men (and in the negative at that). Suggests again men are default and we are "other", reinforcing the idea their concerns and desires matter and ours are lesser - we should be concerned with providing gratification to them (going back to that ghastly article).

Thanks also for the article which I'm going to read!

Interested to know what people think of this argument. I think she's full of shit.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/mar/22/porn-women

The comments I've read - where women are objecting to the prostate owner, non prostate owner identities (although how you can be the owner of something you don't have, God only knows) being met with replies such as:

'Perhaps it's directed towards gay teenagers' - fuck off is it.

'Women have a prostate' - no they don't. The skene gland, which is sometimes called the female prostate, is in the vagina, anyway.

'It's just a normal part of sex' - I disagree. Because, although I think some women enjoy it, I object to the implication that as it is 'normal', everyone should be fine with it.

And I know they say in the article that not everyone does enjoy it, but the fact that it is in a teen magazine aimed at 13-year-olds make that the most disingenuous statement I think I've ever heard.

This woman calls herself a feminist and a dick whisper in the same sentence.

nolove. I'm glad you object too, although I knew you would! But sometimes I do wonder if it's my age. So taking a youth temperature check is always good.

This is a great article from a liberal feminist about her evolution from lib to rad. And yes it is an evolution.

The woman writing this article would do well to read it.

liberationcollective.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/leaving-liberal-feminism/#comments

It's already bad enough that many boys expect it and try to pressure girls into doing it (or just try to do it during sex) without it being promoted to girls in such a magazine. Combined with the pressure girls already face this normalises it further and could make many feel they should be enjoying it and it's something boys are perfectly entitled to try, especially when reading this nonsense at such a young age.

DeleteOrDecay

It's been posted all over the place. Some of the comments just leave me in despair.

If a woman wants to do anal sex, that's fine, I have no argument.

But I think the vast majority of women don't. And I don't want it normalised.

No apology.

I certainly don't want it encouraged in under age girls.

That piece in Teen Vogue is horrendous. That it was written is bad enough but that it got through their editorial team and was published in a magazine as the article says which is aimed at young girls is enraging.

Not only do we have pornography aimed at men and boys which depicts the degradation of women for male gratification, women and girls existing only for this purpose, presented as normal sex but also now a magazine such as Teen Vogue runs an article like that. The messages are insidious enough without them normalising this with their audience, disregarding entirely sexual satisfaction of girls and women and defining us in the "non-men" sense. The demographic it'll be read by and that it's written by a supposed feminist is more abhorrent still. Seems they agree girls and women exist for the sexual gratification of men and boys to carry out whatever fantasy they wish and sex is something for them to do to girls and women.

I couldn't agree more. It's infuriating that pornography is seen by anyone, let alone feminists, as empowering to women.

And it's frustrating that people can, and do, confuse sexual liberation with sexual exploitation. It's perfectly plain to me what the difference is.

This article from Teen Vogue doing the rounds. It is giving instructions to girls as young as 13 on how to do anal sex. Disguising itself as something of an infomercial.

Written by a fucking 'feminist'. Piling more pressure on teenage girls to act out teen boys' fantasies learnt from porn.

It doesn't even mention the clitoris. So women's sexual pleasure is something that can be safely ignored. And 'non prostate owners'. Don't get me started. Ffs.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/teen-vogue-anal-sex-prostate-owner-sheila-michaels-feminism-teenagers-a7831671.html

Interesting article, but it only refers to pornography created by men. Any thoughts on porn created by women for women? Is that any more ethically acceptable? I'm not so sure...

Excellent article.

Being worried is understandable. it's horrendous how commonplace viewing of and acceptance of pornography is - with as that article says so much of it depicting violence towards and degrading treatment of women, leading to this being seen as "standard" or "normal" sex. This is hugely damaging for everyone but especially girls who are often subjected to similar treatment with boys acting out what they've seen in pornography and believing they should enjoy it. The general culture of sex being something men and boys do "to" women and girls and their being treated in this way is a natural part of it is abhorrent.

Yes, my DDs are 3 and 10 months so a long way off yet, but I dread to think what it'll be like by then. There's only so much you can do to prepare them for that kind of enormous pressure.

I feel like nobody is taking it as seriously as it needs to be taken. It is the right of women to be treated fairly and to be respected. It is the right of our children to not be exposed to sexual content like porn until they are old enough to understand it. It is not the right of anyone to be able to access porn. I don't understand what's so hard to get about that.

Good article. OH and I were only talking this morning about our very real fears about our daughters growing up in a world where mainstream porn is abusive at best. This is made worse by it being so easily accessible that our children and their peers are likely to come across it several years before they are actually engaging in sexual activity, making this their 'normal'. And it terrifies me beyond belief that my girls will find themselves growing up in a world where both girls and boys will see pornographic sex as normal sex. Only recently was I reading g an article on the increasing numbers of girls under the age of 15 receiving labiaplasty on the NHS due mainly to the influence of the porn industry.

Good article - and I am still reeling from the (good) shock of discovering a decent feminist article in the HuffPo.