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Disney Princesses

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GuybrushThreepwoodMightyPirate · 01/07/2017 18:51

I'm trying to organise my thoughts on Disney Princesses. I have two young girls and am trying (sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing) to do a decent job of raising them feminists.

Because we don't live in a vacuum - and because I don't want them to feel 'left out' of conversations with their peers - they have had plenty of exposure to the Princesses. I feel that - whilst none of them is perfect from a feminist perspective - some of the films are far 'worse' than others so I have endeavoured to avoid these ones.

My main point of thinking about the films as a group came when I saw some research on films aimed at adults which had female leads and the fact that Hollywood seems to be cottoning on to the fact that women will spend money at the cinema to see films with strong female characters. So, in a very roundabout way, my point is: surely a large part of the pervasive universality of the disney princess films is down to the fact that they are the most readily available source of leading female characters for young girls, and they (like adult women) prefer to see themselves reflected onscreen. So to at least some extent, the Princess element is secondary at best and a result of the fact that little else is available to them.

I am aware that I may not have put my point across clearly but I am aiming to organise my thoughts on this. I am also keenly aware that it is problematic and undesirable to denigrate typically 'girly' pursuits from a feminist standpoint so I want to avoid this.

I'm really interested to hear other perspectives and thoughts on this if anyone's willing to share.

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VestalVirgin · 01/07/2017 20:58

I love your user name and surely, playing the Monkey Island games will help your daughters realize that there's other job options beside princess ... pirate, for example. Grin

I agree that the princess films are so popular because they have female main characters, and your daughters liking them doesn't mean you have failed in the endeavour to raise them as feminists.

However, the princess element will of course still have an influence.

Of course, you cannot completely isolate children from the world, and if they want to see the Disney princess films, they should be allowed to.

There's two kinds of problems with Disney films.

One is the princess role model. That's not so much of a problem as long as it is not the only one they have. Like failing the Bechdel test, girls being shown liking stereotypically girly things is mainly a problem because it is everywhere and it is never the other way round.

The other is the misogynist elements. If positive characters that the viewer is supposed to like to bad things, then even seeing that once is a problem, as a certain kind of behaviour - in the princess films, it is probably "treating women as a prize for men to win" - is shown as an option that good people can choose.

Taking the girls to see Maleficent, or buying the DVD and showing it to them, might be a good idea. I absolutely love that one. Smile