Is feminism really about equality?

Oh @Lottie35 you woke the kraken... best not to engage...

A good example of feminist hipocracy is woman's hour on radio 4.
Always going on about equility but clearly discriminates against men and boys in that they are not given equal programme time to discus issues that are of concern to them.
Woman's hour is broadcast six days a week for an hour, plus late night woman's hour once a month, so about 25 hours for women's issues a month, and zero for men and boys.
Plus the two hosts are female, white, sexist, middle aged feminist who constantly make misandric remarks about men, and will never broadcast anything critical of women.
If that is what feminism is about I want nothing to do with it, I want equility for everybody, male and female.

For example, women get more lenient punishments than males for committing the same crime but feminists are less concerned about addressing this inequality as it might lead to harsher treatment for females

This ISN'T the case. Research has found that when women committed a perceived masculine crime i.e. murder, child abuse they get a far harsher sentence than if they were a man.

There was a mens hour

But men didn't listen to it so they took it off the air

So they were allowed a voice

(Poor men, so voiceless...not)

An example of feminist discrimination against men is woman's hour on radio 4.
Constantly talking about sex discrimination and equility and how bad men are, but there is no men's equivalent program, ie men's hour.
So women are allowed a voice on issues that concern them, but men are not, sheer hipocracy .

why don't men, who generally have more influence in this world, set up their own dv refuges?

I am told that long ago in the UK such shelters existed for males to escape DV. And that they all closed down due to lack of need.

Many women using DV shelters are SAHM without access to funds of their own because, surprise, the abuser controls all the money. Or women working in low-paying jobs without sufficient funds to get out, thank you patriarchy for most of the shit low paid jobs going to women. Men on the other hand, usually (ok, not always) paid more and have the means to flee if need be. As thebewilderness said, not our job to re-instate men's shelters, take it up with the MRAs, they must surely take a break from time to time in between all their online misogyny. But maybe they are just too busy churning out the misogyny. TL;DR No, make your own damned sammich.

Feminism is the political movement for the liberation of women.
Most of the claims made in the OP are not true.
Women who kill or commit violence against male intimate partners usually receive longer sentences than men who kill or commit violence against female intimate partners, even in self-defense.
I have no idea why men think Feminists should fund and build shelters for men the way that we did for women. That would be the job of the MRAs.
It is true that Feminists fought for equal rights under the law. We still are. When men frame "true equality" in terms of women serving men they show us who they are.

For example, women get more lenient punishments than males for committing the same crime

Is this even true? I've read otherwise. That women are given longer sentences and don't get the same family support while in prison.

And, as has often been said, why don't men, who generally have more influence in this world, set up their own dv refuges? Why are women blamed for their inaction?

No it has nothing to do with a fight for equality. It did, once... Quite some time ago now though.

Take the 'fight' to have gender neutral names. That is except where the terms feminism, patriarchy and toxic masculinity are concerned. :)

Nope its ok

I checked a few more

Thought i would take a little look at this board

Do OPs on here usually attempt to delete their threads after 1 reply?

Its just that im not sure if its worth opening anymore threads

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Yeah

If men want equality
men will have to learn to lower their fists not raise them and not use them to prop themselves up in some masculine perceived higher position.

I don't believe men's history is about brave self sacrificing heroic martyrs.
That idea is pure male hype and male propaganda and self glorification

The truth is men's history is more about a bunch of vain violent thieving self concerned bullying thugs and rapists, who cornered women and girls and trampled all over them for sport and to make themselves feel good.
The hollowest victory is the most favoured of all victories for the shallowest of men!

"if you want to be equal" ??

Erm, we are. Maybe just try recognising that for once.

So you'd like feminists to fight for men too? Yeah we'll just have a party with the MRA's. That'll work well.

Society discriminates against both women and men in different ways.

Women still face discrimination in the workplace. Men still face discrimination regarding their children. Both are wrong.

I definitely think there has been a big mix up in the last decade with the perception of feminism and what it is. Back 100 years ago when women were fighting (physically!) for the right to vote, that was about equality, and rightly so. Nowadays you get 16-year-olds who think the gender wage gap is awful and that women suffer more than men. The reality is, women aren't equal in any society but neither are men, both genders have their drawbacks (take paternity leave and fathers being favourable in court cases with children). There are so many things to consider and people forget about the simple things. Inequality is happening in much more ways than with women, it happens with homophobia, transphobia, racism and so much more. Feminism has a right to be alive and healthy but we mustn't get caught up in fighting for something when other issues are getting pushed aside too.

"Feminism became a mean, vindictive, man hating philosophy. Basically saying every man is evil etc"
Could you give some examples?

I personally don't agree with feminism these days. Many women agree. It's not about equality anymore like you it was many years ago. It's about getting an advantage over men, not being on an equal level. Feminism became a mean, vindictive, man hating philosophy. Basically saying every man is evil etc. I'm all for equality but definitely not feminism. Just my two cents..

Gosh.

God, is it still really like this here when the sun goes down? How depressing.
I love slug's link. A perfect antidote.
And a lol at enginerd. Favoured. Bahahahahaha.

Every MRA ever has probably used this. Helps them deceive themselves into believing men have it so bad. Diddums.

Ok, I can accept this point for now, but what would you replace it with? surely the most able and qualified person should get the job regardless of age, gender, race etc...

and I struggle to find anything but weak anecdotal evidence of oppression, if anything, I regularly find women are favoured in this day and age.