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"Don't walk home alone"

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NoLoveofMine · 25/06/2017 18:49

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-40399103

Ridiculous, victim blaming advice to women and girls anyway but this shows yet again how pointless it is to suggest.

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NoLoveofMine · 25/06/2017 19:22

I recall that case Vestal - that was Brock Turner I think. It was horrendous, as were some of the comments made in his defence. So telling on how he and many others saw women and girls. The piece written by the woman he attacked afterwards was excellent, though.

Two men did intervene when this attack was going on it seems so their actions are to be commended; I very much hope these attackers are caught and brought to justice.

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VestalVirgin · 25/06/2017 19:18

Could have been a case of other people not seeing the rape because they were so accustomed to men being pushy and coercive that it looked like "Oh, hey, she's having a fight with her boyfriend", or ... whatever, no idea.

Putting the onus on men to prevent other men from raping when they see it happen would be a first step in the right direction.

I would have thought that went without saying, but apparently it doesn't.

(I found it very telling that in this one case where an American man raped an unconscious girl and even photographed her, it was two Swedish men who noticed and stopped him. Could be coincidence, but could also be Americans considering this so normal they didn't even notice)

NoLoveofMine · 25/06/2017 18:58

That's a good point Vestal. I suppose without knowing the details, it could have looked innocent at first to anyone passing by. It is thoroughly chilling that these two attackers felt confident in approaching the women and carrying out such a crime with both of them there and in a busy city centre. Horrific.

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VestalVirgin · 25/06/2017 18:53

I am shocked by the fact that there were so many passersby, and no one intervened before the rape.

I tend to feel safe in busy areas, because I count on people helping me, and rapists being discouraged by the presence of other people.

Apparently I have been naive. Confused