Ched Evans explains to women how to not get raped

Having been raped both when drunk and sober, I can confirm the only unchanging factor was the rapist.

Women, stop drinking. Men, carry on as normal.

Rape is in your hands ladies, watch out for those genuine rapists (as oppose to the ched evans kind).

Jesus. Too tired to bang head against brick wall.

Ched knows he raped that woman. He knows.

Gross and vile.

Actually, in my younger days, on occasion, drink made me more feisty. I told someone trying to mug me to go and fuck himself because I didn't have any money anyway. He slunk off.

But when it came to being raped, I sobered up the second I realised what was happening, whereupon I froze.

All this ridiculous advice says is "try to make sure someone else is raped not you"

Yes - so much this to the PP who posted it. It's also complete baloney anyway. I got blind drunk wearing "provocative" clothing many times and nothing happened. When did I get raped? When I took the advice of my close male friend and allowed him to walk me home from a late study session.

Love Jean Hatchet. Also love the rape prevention tips, franciemczoo.

Drink makes it harder to avoid and fight off rapists.

Pickle, I am sorry you were raped but it appalls me that you think you were in some part to blame.

Drink does not make it harder to avoid rape. Woman cannot avoid rape because we do not know what a rapist looks like. He could be your boss, your mate, your brother, your neighbour... Staying sober will not help us avoid the entire male population, which would be the only way to avoid rape.

I agree intoxication may impede your ability to defend yourself but so does being female, too short, too thin, too fat, too old, too young, too unfit, not knowing self defense or martial arts. We don't blame women for any of that do we?

Only men can prevent rape by not raping women.

That wanker and all men like him need to abide by these rules. It's tongue in cheek but is true!

How can women and girls "avoid" rapists? Never go out? Never live with any male?

The only thing which makes women and girls vulnerable to rapists is being female. The only thing which makes rapists rape is them making a choice to rape.

Jean Hatchet strikes again.

cadnowyllt
If theres a difference between drunk and dead drunk and you pick up a woman, how do you tell?

Drink makes it harder to avoid and fight off rapists. For a while after I was raped, I stopped drinking completely.
I advise my daughters not to drink to excess so they can protect themselves from falling over, bumping into stuff, and making themselves more vulnerable to rapists.
I advise my sons not to drink to excess for all the same above, and so they don't get confused about consent.

He is beyond belief. Just sickening.

User let's just say suddenly no women were drinking anymore and were covered from head to toe. Do you honestly believe that (stranger)rapists would stop raping ?

Ched Evans should go fuck himself. Up the arse. With a chair.

At what point do the measures a woman could take to reduce her risk also become measures that will make her life worse and restrict her?

That's the thing isn't it. It's considered unreasonable for women not to restrict her life out of a misguided idea that she will become less attractive to predators. Hence the judgemental attitudes when she has the bad luck to be targeted by a rapist. No one is responsible for their own rape.

I'm just fucking tired of people making excuses for men's criminal behaviour.

Very much so. I really shouldn't get so enraged but it's difficult not to; this kind of victim blaming tripe is so abhorrent and misogynistic. That it's proven not to be relevant in the slightest yet still people blame women and girls.

I think the snarky comment was aimed at me.

I'm just fucking tired of people making excuses for men's criminal behaviour.

even if they do provoke a few extreme and snarky responses at times.

It's not "snarky". I am incandescent with rage. It is not "good to promote a dialogue" when that dialogue is used to victim blame and flat out state women should or even can protect themselves against rape which men choose to carry out.

Also I should not have said "drink is even less of a factor", it is never a factor. Sorry for that; I was just so angry with what that poster was saying and insinuating women and girls raped by strangers are somehow partly responsible. Drink is never a factor, clothing is never a factor, only the rapist is the factor.

I haven't the words ....what a vile excuse of a man

TRIGGER WARNING.

Some very recent stranger rapes. Drink not a factor in any one of those. I am so enraged.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/serial-rapist-jailed-life-again-10402614

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-41-rape-kidnap-81-year-old-pensioner-woman-balham-south-west-london-tooting-sexual-offence-a7577226.html

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/28/man-who-raped-stranger-hours-before-his-wedding-given-life-term

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/797194/Teenage-boy-15-charged-knifepoint-rape-woman-Sutcliffe-Park-Eltham-South-East-London

Just a few of so many.

I also believe that specifically in the case of stranger rape

This is NOT the case in the case of stranger rape. I KNOW it is not the case. Statistics just do not back this up at all. If anything drink is even LESS of a factor in stranger rape. This is abhorrent.

Just like a lion picks off a limping antelope in the Serengeti, a rapist may be more likely to target the drunk girl who will pose less risk to him.

Absolute nonsense and not linked to any actual statistics. This is abhorrent and upsetting victim blaming.

i applaud your cause xeno having been raped i support anything that will help prevent it.

My experience was obviously much different to yours Beau I hope you had help and support to get through it. I was only sharing my view on the basis of my experience which was the stereotypical stranger in a dark alley who used extreme violence.

staying sober helps me. I accept you all feel differently. either way it's good to promote a dialogue about these things, even if they do provoke a few extreme and snarky responses at times.

Good luck.

Unless you can guarantee that, if no woman ever drinks again, no man will ever rape again, then it's just a platitude to make some women feel superior and others like it's their fault they have been victimised. It perpetuates the myth that women can do things to stop men harming them.

In the meantime, I'll just get on with my work raising awareness of what consent looks like and making the assumption that men are capable of behaving like human beings.