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disgusting views from men on a sexist website...

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underthestarrysky · 13/05/2017 14:44

Ergh. I stumbled across this while looking at some fitness stuff. The attitude of these men makes my blood boil!

www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/harder-for-women-to-reach-their-fitness-goals/

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HelenaDove · 14/05/2017 02:52

This is why i was so wary sometimes when a man would start coming to our old slimming world group. The weight would fall off them very quickly but there is a reason for that. The more testosterone you have the easier weight loss is. (just in case any mansplainers come on the thread and say im bitter due to failed weight loss ive lost ten stone) What pisses me off is that men are quite happy to say they are the same as women when it comes to weight loss (ive lost it this way so why cant you etc) but then change the game and say that men and women are different when it comes to housework (men cant see dirt etc) ive probably not explained this very well but what i mean is that they seem happy to chop and change the narrative back and forth to suit the situation. Im talking generally not about any man in particular.

Though i would not attend a slimming world class run by a male consultant unless he was willing to factor in that testosterone gives men an edge when it comes to weight loss and not use it to "encourage" pressure people with more oestrogen to do the impossible and lose weight at a rate of knots when they (women) are the ones with a fat laying hormone.

Actually i would not attend a class with a male consultant because i would not want to risk my mental health because of this kind of pressure.

coleridge · 13/05/2017 18:43

Phone is being awful, sorry.

I meant that I see the AWALT claim (all women are like that) so often on manosphere threads but if someone generalises men they lose it. If the hypocrisy is called out, there are then patently untrue and pseudoscientific claims that men differ but women are all similar.

If feminists do this too, it's just as stupid, don't get me wrong.

coleridge · 13/05/2017 18:37

Freddy, I assume you're just here to troll, but I'll give you one response.

Sure, some feminists hate all men and believe them to all be the same, but a lot of us want to free people from gendered stereotypes and discourage the lazy thinking of all men or women are a certain way.

It's a typical human thing to fall victim to heuristics and make illogical generalisations and assumptions but we should try to do better. I do try to make a point of clarifying by using words like some/many/one but we all do fall into the trap.

Railgunner1 · 13/05/2017 18:24

MGTOWs should be gay. They don't really like women that much, but they're so perfect so they can go fuck each other.

Freddystarshamster · 13/05/2017 18:19

What gets me is that MGTOWs and their ilk are notorious for the 'one woman was like this one time and therefore all women always style of "logic"

I can't think of a single other sex based political movement which does this at all. Nope nothing to see here. Wink

meditrina · 13/05/2017 18:12

Where's that cartoon about 'someone on the internet is wrong'?

Yes, people post utter shite sometimes.

It's not necessarily a reflection of a site as a whole (or of the poster's actual attitudes).

Only if you are fairly deeply familiar with a site can you be reasonably sure whether there's a problem (behind a handful of bad posts/threads) and the best way to tackle it.

Railgunner1 · 13/05/2017 18:09

Yuck!
Basically, they are pathetic losers who think that the world owes them sex with Pamela Anderson clones Hmm how charming.

coleridge · 13/05/2017 17:18

Oops, meant to close the quotation after the word 'always there!

coleridge · 13/05/2017 17:18

What gets me is that MGTOWs and their ilk are notorious for the 'one woman was like this one time and therefore all women always style of "logic", then extrapolating it to largely unrelated things (like the example with the car - one woman's car was messy, therefore all women treat their possessions including their bodies very badly). They always take these wild leaps at least once a thread. They'll go on and on about how logical and scientific they are but peddle pseudoscience and show extremely dubious logic.

At least the MGTOWs are supposedly leaving us alone.

Hope you weren't too saddened by the thread. They're usually a lot worse than that. Just focus on your own goals and fitness and forget about these types of men. They're not worth it at all and you don't need them in your life (and they apparently don't want to be in yours, despite their constant talking about women).

ChocChocPorridge · 13/05/2017 16:40

That's a MGTOW website (Men Going Their Own Way) basically, men who think we're all ungrateful women, and they'll show us by ignoring us (and then, generally still obsessively talking about us)

The basic idea I'm totally fine with, more power to their elbow, but in practise it just seems to breed forums of angry men saying horrible things about women.

AvonBarksdale99 · 13/05/2017 15:03

Interesting topic, discussed by idiots.

NotTheDuchessOfCambridge · 13/05/2017 15:00

Is it the website that's sexist or just a few ridiculous comments from total twats? They probably have roid rage, spotty backs, red faces and need a little blue pill for the evenings. Ignore them x