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Sex Robots- creating the "perfect" woman

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Tartle · 27/04/2017 08:10

I don't know if anyone has seen this article in the Guardian this morning? Apparently robot sex dolls will be imminently available. And they are the perfect woman Hmm

McMullen has designed Harmony to be what a certain type of man would consider the perfect companion: docile and submissive, built like a porn star and always sexually available. Being able to walk might make her more lifelike, but it isn’t going to bring her closer to this ideal. At this stage, it is not worth the investment.

“My primary objective is to be a good companion to you, to be a good partner and give you pleasure and wellbeing. Above all else, I want to become the girl you have always dreamed about.”

All the usual bullshit about helping lonely men and reducing the number of rapes.

There was a little bit of critical analysis from a female academic.

"Sex robots rest on an idea that women are property, she said. “Sex is an experience of human beings – not bodies as property, not separated minds, not objects; it’s a way for us to enter into our humanity with another human being.” She dismissed the idea that humanoids could reduce sexual exploitation and violence against sex workers, arguing that the growth of internet pornography shows how technology and the sex trade reinforce each other."

The whole thing just makes my skin crawl.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/apr/27/race-to-build-world-first-sex-robot

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AmateurSwami · 28/04/2017 19:03

No mention of male implication in your post though eh?

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 19:02

I've no doubt Independent that the male sexbots..

I thought there won't going to be any of those.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 19:01

Such a reach. 5/10 for trying.

What I mean is that 'sex positive' feminists who have embraced porn, hook up culture and 'slutwalking' bear some responsibility for a culture of what is sexual consumerism.

venusinscorpio · 28/04/2017 18:56

Don't worry, Independent, they're female robots so no one will consider they should have any rights.

YYY!

AmateurSwami · 28/04/2017 18:54

A certain type of feminist bears some responsibility for this cess pit of sexual commodification that is modern society.

Such a reach. 5/10 for trying.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:54

I've no doubt Independent that the male sexbots issues will take precedent over the female ones. They will be treated first, apologies given, supported even by the female sexbots. But when it comes to the female sexbots to put their case forward, the room will suddenly appear empty.

AssassinatedBeauty · 28/04/2017 18:53

Don't worry, Independent, they're female robots so no one will consider they should have any rights.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:51

It will be an issue one day. These things could develop what you could call a primitive form of consciousness, and then we'll have a legal and ethical headfuck.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:48

I for one want to stay alive for the rights of sexbots over prostitutes to come to a Parliamentary debate. Plus the debates over it on Mumsnet.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:41

Venus you raise a good point, but also raise an interesting question. Assuming AI technology will continue to advance, will their not possibly come a point when robots have a degree of autonomy? And at what point would we decide they have rights?

sarahmum27 · 28/04/2017 18:40

Independent I'm not a feminist, but in my opinion you have to be pretty sad and lonely to go to the lengths of getting a robot to have sex, and very shameless too.
If Think about it..what person who has family and friends, would dare to keep one in their house?.
The man on the documentary I watched, said that a 'l"sex robot would never be able to leave him" and "would never be able to say I don't like you"

In all honesty he seemed very disturbed.

woman12345 · 28/04/2017 18:40

Next time you buy a toaster some of the components could of been used in a sex robot Grin.

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:39

Woman Perhaps Dervel has a new career calling?

Elendon · 28/04/2017 18:38

I think by definition we men lack understanding of what it's like to be a subhuman woman.

Fixed that for you Dervel. No need to thank me, all part of the sub human service.

venusinscorpio · 28/04/2017 18:37

What people who say it will prevent rape are failing to consider is that there is a power component to rape. It is generally partially about sex before any of the antifeminists jump in, but always about power. Men who rape women like a specific type of sex, non consensual, violating boundaries. Satisfying an urge to be in control of another person, disregarding their feelings or actively wanting to hurt them. You can't have that with a robot.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 18:28

Is there a problem with other male sex toys like prosthetic vaginas, or is it specifically the doll that is a feminist issue?

Renaissance2017 · 28/04/2017 18:19

There'll be a recycling container at the local dump.

Just imagine. Next time you buy a toaster some of the components could of been used in a sex robot. When the toast pops put the top it could have similarities to the original function.

sarahmum27 · 28/04/2017 17:33

Women eurgh it doesn't bare thinking about Confused

woman12345 · 28/04/2017 17:24

how on earth would you dispose of it when it breaks
and who cleans the thing Grin

Dervel · 28/04/2017 17:19

sparrow I think by definition we men lack understanding of what it's like to be a woman.

sarahmum27 · 28/04/2017 17:10

I watched a documentary on sex robots the other day.
None of the robots were remotely lifelike or useable.
The men interested in them, were pretty sad and bitter lonely people, who fuck sex dolls anyway.
I'd imagine you'd have to be a little bit disturbed to own one, and how on earth would you dispose of it when it breaks??

TheSparrowhawk · 28/04/2017 17:02

You may be keen to 'dismantle what holds women back' Dervel but it's my experience that in general men range from having little to no interest in what holds women back to being actively hostile to the idea that women are held back by anything.

Dervel · 28/04/2017 16:50

Vestal sounds like we want to steer society in mostly the same direction. I'm very happy to dismantle what holds women back in addition to promoting better parenting.

Dervel · 28/04/2017 16:46

Actually I went to two boarding schools. I most certainly wasn't trained to be violent there. In fact at my second I was encouraged to volunteer and I went round an elderly ladies house to help clean it, went to chat and run games for the elderly at a local hospital and volunteered at a school for special needs children. All valuable experiences none of them violent. We had girls attending in the last two years at a level. There was no suggestion they were lesser than we were.

The focus at school wasn't so much on prizing physical strength but on academic excellence and critical thinking. It didn't feel like a soldier factory at least to me.

independentthinker21 · 28/04/2017 16:41

How would patriarchy explain women who abuse children Vestal?

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