Sex Robots- creating the "perfect" woman

I'm a techno optimist😆

Afraid I'm not. The internet will destroy jobs on a massive scale, give unprecedented power to corporations and turn pretty much all of human life into a form of marketable commodity or data currency.

Who knows what will happen, we haven't invented an accurate crystal ball yet, all this speculation will be way off the mark, predictions about the future always are, things pan out in ways we just can't imagine
I'm a techno optimist😆

But technology has been used to satisfy female desires MiddleAged. The market in sex toys is worth billions and women are embracing an internet based sexual culture.

Sex bots could be just as upsetting to men as they are to women, the idealized male body is just as unobtainable to the average man as is the idealized female body to the average woman

Well quite. Perhaps we have gender equal techno-capitalist objectification to look forward to.

Give technology to men and they will find a way to use it to satisfy their sexual desires. Why are they not working on a robot that I can use to clean the house? Or give it a shopping list and expect it to come back from the shops with the right stuff? Why can they not find a way to work out why a baby is crying (different coloured lights for food, nappy, sleep)?

But, it is true, men's desire for sex has pushed many innovations forward and no doubt their desire for the 'perfect woman' will push forward technology in AI. This probably goes hand in hand with the artificial womb that is being worked on right now. Men will find a way to get on without real women in the future....assuming they don't blow us all up with nuclear weapons first.

Your average bloke with his flabby dad bod....man boobs, pot belly his self esteem is gonna take a real hit when he sees those handsome androids with the lean muscular Greek God physique and the handsome movie star face

Sex bots could be just as upsetting to men as they are to women, the idealized male body is just as unobtainable to the average man as is the idealized female body to the average woman

It is at the moment yes, but there is no reason why it will always be so.

if you believe porn to be inherently patriarchal The vast majority of it is at the moment, yes.

Are you saying women don't get turned on by good looking men with fit bodies?
Damn sure I do!

Well, there you go. Maybe one day women will have male sex dolls then.

I agree that male sex dolls are unlikely, because women just don't require a visually stimulating male object
Are you saying women don't get turned on by good looking men with fit bodies?
Damn sure I do!

Sex between consenting adults is broadly speaking generally OK though surely?

It might be or it might not. A forty year old man having sex with a sixteen year old girl is legal but arguably not okay. Ditto someone having an affair behind their husband or wife's back.

Consent is of course the baseline requirement of a sexual relationship, but the moral implications of what is a highly complex, intimate act between two human beings extends way beyond that. Sex does not take place in a moral, social or political vacuum.

We have all sorts of moral obligations that rightly limit our sexual choices
Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean

@GavelRavel Kiddybots

if they carried on would be an electrical shock
Why would you punish a machine, it's not conscious it doesn't experience anything, just as pointless as whipping the toaster when it burns the toast

im not sure anyone - male or female - should feel that they should be able to have sex with 'whoever' they want to

Sex between consenting adults is broadly speaking generally OK though surely?

Sex toys aren't marketed as the the perfect man, are they?

They don't want to let me anyway near the programming of them. I would code random 'stop' or 'I don't want to be touched' and if they carried on would be an electrical shock.

Moreover, I'm not sure anyone - male or female - should feel that they should be able to have sex with 'whoever' they want to. We have all sorts of moral obligations that rightly limit our sexual choices.

ChocChoc it was not my intention to suggest that everything pre-60's was wonderful for women and everything post-60's was bad. As you rightly argue, that would be a groundless generalisation. Just that we now have a highly sexualised consumer culture and aa global, deregulated sex industry which dwarfs anything to have previously existed in human history. Liberalism has lost its moral compass. The message of sexual liberation was that people should be liberated from moral restraints to indulge their sexual desires in whatever way they please. And now that's what we've got. And it's a mess.

And now look at we have. Rather than liberation, sex has just been opened up to market forces. The capitalist system has monetized and commodified the bodies of women on a scale never seen before in human history.

I'm not sure that's necessarily true. It might feel like that, but women have enormous freedom in the west. We're allowed to own property and earn money for example, and in many societies, a daughter was literally just a domestic labour machine until she was sold to someone to be their domestic labour machine and grow new domestic labour machines and people.

Women have always been commodified. Sexual liberation has at least given the lucky ones the chance to have sex with whoever they wanted without being sold first, and without having to spend most of their life pregnant or breastfeeding until they died or were worn out.

Just out of interest, do people think there is an issue with prosthetic orifices and other male sex toys?

As pp have said sex robots is a great idea, further more they could be on prescription for the pathologically disrespectful, a sort of lifetime sentence, if you will.

I may take out shares in the manufacturers, there'll be high demand.

How hideous. Read Margaret Atwoods "The Heart Goes Last" for an insight into where this is all heading.

I agree vesuvia.

Sex removed from a human context is a psychopathic condition.

Some users of sex robots may not yet be rapists but I think their use of sex robots could widen their expectation of constant sexual compliance to include not only their sex robots but also people, leading to an increase in the numbers of rapes.

Yes. That's what happens with prostitution (where instead of men raping prostitutes and leaving other women alone, they see all women as prostitutes), and I see no reason why it wouldn't happen with sexbots, other than perhaps men being too lazy to leave the house. (Which, however will only apply to a few who live in their mother's basement and don't have to work - and those won't be able to afford sexbots).

Tartle wrote - "All the usual bullshit about helping lonely men and reducing the number of rapes."

I doubt that these sex robots will reduce the number of rapists who want to inflict horrendous physical or mental injuries on people.

I think a problem with expecting that a rapist will use a sex robot instead of targeting a person is that it does not address the rapist's high opinion of himself. A rapist will assume that he is more than capable of getting any person he chooses to submit to his will and (from the rapist's point of view) a compliant sex robot is not a big enough "conquest".

Some users of sex robots may not yet be rapists but I think their use of sex robots could widen their expectation of constant sexual compliance to include not only their sex robots but also people, leading to an increase in the numbers of rapes.