Trans- kids... so many batshit parents? WTAF?

I am now going to google weeing pandas...

I found this quote in 'Miss Representation' which is on Netflix. I've taken it out of context, but its relevant.

''The average child develops over 18 – 24 years, and full brain development doesn't really occur until you are into your early 20's. So the idea that kids at 8, or 10, or 15 have the same level of intellectual and emotional maturity as an adult is nuts.
They have different interpretative abilities, they have different emotional abilities, and they're a much more vulnerable class in society.''

Jim Steyer, CEO Common Sense Media, Lawyer and professor of Civil Rights Stanford

No one should be transed before they are 21.

I glad this thread is mainly anti trans for minors. There's so much left wing sjw bullshit out there at the moment, I'd started to lose the will to live!

I find people that are the type to raise their child non binary/trans, are very contradicting.
I mean why do they label their child a different gender if they start to take an interest in a certain genders toys, but then say that there's no such thing as gender in toys and it's fine if boys want to play with dollys???

The other thing that pisses me off, is this whole 'pro-nouns' bollox, how are we meant to know your pro noun? you could just be a butch lesbian for all we know?

Also the whole toilet business, just because you wear a dress does not suddenly give you the right to pee next to my 11 year old daughter!! Try actually looking female first, i.e. Shave your beard!! Otherwise you scare the kids.

I don't think anyone before the age of 18 is wise enough to know how they truly feel.
My best friend refused to wear dresses growing up, all she wanted to wear is football shorts and tops...then when she was 13 she completely changed and went to wearing skirts and makeup, even did beauty therapy at college.

No child under the age of 18 should be allowed to transition. This includes 'puberty blockers'. The mind has nowhere nearly developed at this age and they are far to young and malleable to undertake something as huge and life-changing as this. The parents that condone it are completely irresponsible imo. Most kids can't even make a firm decision about what job they want in the future or whether they want beans or spaghetti hoops, let alone deciding they are a different gender.

*who

BuzzFeed did an article recently about male survivors of sexual abuse and quite a lot of them had been female at the time of the abuse.

And that's the kind of thing that throws off statistics. And statistics go a long way to deciding how needs support and resources.

The reason for girls being seen as trans later than boys has a sinister aspect. In surveys, over half of girls who identify as boys during this pubertal period have been victims of sexual abuse.

Someone on another thread saw this quote on tumblr; "Not being heterosexual is self-care." I find that viewpoint very telling.

I think a hell of a lot of the 'trans' stuff among teenage girls is primarily about protecting themselves from the sexually aggressive society they are entering. Cutting their hair short and dressing like geography teachers signposts "I am not like those girls who get choked and spat on in those videos my male peers watch. I'm different and that is nothing to do with who I am." 99% of these girls have no interest in really becoming men, they are just being told that if they don't want to emulate the looks and lifestyle of a Kardashian they can't be real women. Even actresses like Cate Blanchett and Jennifer Aniston are being christened 'non-binary' on tumblr, simply because they don't dress in a hyper feminine way.

My dog wees by holding both back legs in the air, and walking forward on her front paws. She's clearly non-binary genderqueer.

I think you'll find that makes her a trans-panda - don't they wee by doing handstands against trees?

I have noticed an increased incidence of genderising animals ....

You only need to go to pets at home to see there's practically "girls" and "boys" aisles- pink collars, litter trays, jackets and clothes, pink balls, baskets, while for boys it's leather and studs and blue/dark colours.

You even get pink and blue fishtanks.

And funnily enough people are staring to come out with crap like "boy cats are more cuddly", "girl dogs are bossy"

It's fucking pervasive.

I've just watched the latest currys ad about washing machines where they challenge a mum- of course a mum who lives in a house full of "active, filthy boys" who want to play in the park and climb on trees. While those of us with girls don't need such tough washing machines, obv.

Why the heck are diggers male, but penises aren't?
The single sentence sums up the entire ridiculous circus that this trans nonsense has become
Can't square a little girl liking dinosaurs, trains or anything science based. But a little girl with a penis is not a freak of nature (or, you know; a boy...) - she's got a female penis.
Is it a sort of mass hysteria? A kind of collective mental illness?

whereyouleft I came on here to post about my thoughts on this issue and its connection to Induced and Fabricated Illness (its not Munchausens by proxy anymore because that label doesn't put enough emphasis on the abusive aspect of the 'condition' )

Transgender is a gift to someone with I&FI leanings. In young children it seems to depend entirely on parental reporting.

I don't think my 18 month old even has 'preferences' in terms of toys. She goes through phases with them as she learns a new skill, but there isn't a type of toy she favours. I'm sceptical that most babies have preferences, let alone preferences that represent stereotypical sex roles.

Me too SisterMoonshine.

Why can't these people let kids be kids?? It's outrageous. So what if a boy wants to wear a princess dress? They don't know or care if they're "meant for girls"

I don't think it will be cause for handwringing anytime soon, as there's enough (pre)teen girls getting permanently sterilized that it's still a win for patriarchy

That's it! It's a cunning plot to sterilise a generation and reduce the rate of population growth. The ones that aren't sterile won't know who to have sex with to make babies. Nobody will know which is which.

Now I look back at my 70s childhood, wearing the same flares and white dunlops as the boys, skateboarding and water pistols, while Adam Ant, David Bowie etc were all wearing make up and it seems we've come so far the wrong way re gender roles and Disney princesses etc
I can't believe it's happened really

The reason for girls being seen as trans later than boys has a sinister aspect. In surveys, over half of girls who identify as boys during this pubertal period have been victims of sexual abuse.

Over half! And the solution being offered if you're a 10 year old who is being sexually abused by a pedophile and want a way out ... puberty blockers.

What a world.

My dog wees by holding both back legs in the air, and walking forward on her front paws. She's clearly non-binary genderqueer.

Why can't we just let children choose what they enjoy, what they play with, what they wear, what colours, hobbies, sports etc that they like, without having to use those preferences to jam them into a stereotype?

Surely it is more healthy to move away from 'boys' toys' and 'girls' toys' - so instead of some people thinking "my child, Mike, is playing with a kitchen or a doll so is clearly Michelle", to "my child Mike is playing with a toy - and enjoying themself, and that is all that matters"?