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Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture

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Joneser · 11/04/2017 21:32

Hi. Is it possible in theory that any kind of feminist movement could conceivably have existed in prehistoric times or in any primitive culture? I don't mean matriarchal societies, I mean a feminist movement.

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Xenophile · 12/04/2017 09:43

Evolutionary Psychology... giving inadequate men the chance to feel like Tarzan for a minute.

I do love how you've attempted to edit the copy/paste though.

Just a thought....

In every other species where males are needed to do little to nothing with offspring, the numbers of males is severely limited. If evopsych has any value at all and it really doesn't how does it explain why we bothered, as primitive societies, with keeping the numbers of males around that we did?

In a purely evolutionary sense, having lots of males about makes life dangerous for the rest of the group, because they fight for access to females in order to pass on their genes. Given that the OP is all about the evopsych, when does he suggest that we start kiling off lesser males in order to ensure that only the best genetic material makes it into the gene pool? How does he suggest we go about doing this? Or does the OP only wish to subscribe to evolutionary theory when it suits him to attempt to feel superior to the sex that birthed and nurtured him?

DJBaggySmalls · 12/04/2017 09:42

How are wars efficient?

jellyfrizz · 12/04/2017 09:13

All women should be eternally grateful and humbled by the amazing things that men have done for everybody.

After all women only gave them life.

smilingsarahb · 12/04/2017 09:03

Grinthat was really funny op.
Humans are incredibly adaptable species, that's why we are so successful.

Datun · 12/04/2017 08:55

I was thinking about my great-grandparents, on both sides, who were Victorians.

Both my great grandmothers had 10 children apiece. Does anyone (and by that I mean men) think that is what they wanted? I mean, would you?

If men had only learnt to keep it in their pants, history would be a completely different story.

It's no coincidence that the contraceptive pill has revolutionised the gender roles. And we've only just begun.

squishysquirmy · 12/04/2017 08:49

The evolutionary Psychology spouted in that ridiculous essay has all the scientific rigour of phrenology. But then understanding pseudoscience is not one of my strengths. Guess I'll have to leave that to a man, and know my place. Sad

ChocChocPorridge · 12/04/2017 07:13

Couldn't be bothered to read past my 'natural functions' and the idea that women couldn't do 'mens' work and men couldn't do 'womens' work - which is demonstrably rubbish outside of reproductive labour.

When I've seen documentaries about current day isolated tribes living traditional lives, one thing that stuck out for me is that the blokes go off and do the hunting, then come back and sit around and smoke (hunted meat optional). The women get on with raising kids, getting firewood, finding the bulk of the food and water the tribe eats, and often seem to basically have the attitude that the men are just giant children who sometimes bring home meat.

I don't get the impression that (other than at the hands of other men) the women would suffer deprivation without the men of their village. The men on the other hand would have a lot less time to sit around a fire talking about the glories of their hunts.

I think that their feminism is accepting their lot, and getting on with it because more than us they know that life is precarious, and the hunters wouldn't fail to beat them if they stepped out of line.

PhoenixJasmine · 12/04/2017 07:07

Almondpudding wins the thread for sure Grin

Mrsmorton · 12/04/2017 07:06

@almondpudding
Grin

FlorisApple · 12/04/2017 07:02

Err......that would be a D......no maybe an E from me. Would like to fail it completely, but it's got paragraphs. "primitive peoples" LOL.

claraschu · 12/04/2017 06:57

Almondpudding said it all:

"I have some doubts about your knowledge of anthropology OP.

Also, the ability to be succinct is a virtue."

lol

PoochSmooch · 12/04/2017 06:46

I couldn't make it through that screed of evo-psych cobblers, but the OP seems like he's a lot of fun. Can we keep him as a pet?

kelpeed, The Land of Painted Caves was an abomination, but I did very much enjoy Ayla's struggle to Have It All as she juggled motherhood with her career while Jondalar sulked in the background like the emotionally incontinent manchild he was Grin

PhoenixJasmine · 12/04/2017 05:49

Haha, good one OP. Nearly had us there. ROFLMAO etc Hmm

VestalVirgin · 12/04/2017 01:54

Men also often stole their wives' ideas before there could even be any talk of patenting.

... those things are all well known among everyone who really wants to now, so I am not sure it makes sense to mention them here?

OP is just a goady fucker, it seems to me.

vesuvia · 12/04/2017 01:38

men made it illegal for women to apply for patents.

vesuvia · 12/04/2017 01:36

OP wrote - "if a woman happened to be the inventor of the shoelace, I'm afraid that simply doesn't compare with keeping the lights on."

Women have invented many things, often world-changing inventions , but women are often not recognised as the inventors, because, for many years, men made it illegal for women apply for patents.

InionEile · 12/04/2017 01:34

Sounds like you put a lot of time and thought into that, OP. Is it for a school project?

Feminism in prehistoric times / primitive culture
almondpudding · 12/04/2017 01:17

No.

VestalVirgin · 12/04/2017 01:16

Ahahaha. I should have known. What a pity, I thought the OP was genuinely interested in debate.

(I only read the first two sentences of that last post. I didn't miss anything of importance, did I?)

SuziePink · 12/04/2017 01:12

I'm a doctor of engineering despite being a (now expecting) woman... does that mean I'm a useless female unable to break my "evolution"?

GretchenFranklin · 12/04/2017 01:06

Gosh. Gibberish sweetie, but carry on won't you.

TitaniasCloset · 12/04/2017 01:03

Do you feel better now op? Must be good to get it off your chest.

RebelRogue · 12/04/2017 00:56

😂😂😂😂😂😂

kelpeed · 12/04/2017 00:42

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ChocAuVin · 12/04/2017 00:38

Poorly played by the OP. Next.

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