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Do you think some of the driver for "a woman is anyone who says they are a woman" is to do with bad science teaching in the US?

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QuentinSummers · 07/04/2017 11:26

Just reading this thread on Reddit and loads of the posts are very scientifically naive. I can't decide if posters are being disingenuous or are just very uneducated about basic science.
It got me wondering whether the American thing of teaching creationism as equally valid a theory as evolution has generally undermined science and critical thinking.

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BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 21:53

If you are here mn, I am curious why "handicapped" was deleted, but "morons" wasn't?

Original poster
QuentinSummers · 07/04/2017 21:13

rogue I think ssr is banned

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RogueBiscuit · 07/04/2017 21:10

Come on mumsnet. My comment wasn't against any guidelines at all. Yet you've allowed one particular poster to repeatedly troll this thread, insulting people and using offensive language.

How come my opinion that many trans people are mentally ill (which is a fact by the way) has been deleted, yet a poster calling people terfs and fucking nonces is ok ?

Does the poster get a free pass because she thinks she's a man ?

Floggingmolly · 07/04/2017 20:47

Hear hear, Rogue

RogueBiscuit · 07/04/2017 20:38

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venusinscorpio · 07/04/2017 20:10

I do find it fascinating how SSR realises that they can't expect to use the men's toilets. But we are expected to welcome TW into ours.

Datun · 07/04/2017 18:47

The OP has started another thread to avoid derail. I believe it is currently a spunk-free zone.

Datun · 07/04/2017 18:45

BeyondUser24601

Spunk Grin

BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 18:45

DH has just informed me his semen is gender fluid, so it's okay 😂

BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 18:44

Sorry, references to sperm are probably transphobic. I apologise.

BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 18:44

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BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 18:42

I think that SS may have left the building (such a shame :( I was really learning some True Facts from them)

Shall we get back to the actual discussion? Grin

Datun · 07/04/2017 18:04

I was oscillating between thinking this is an MRA, transwoman, a transman.

They argued like an MRA with all the inherent misogyny, but would then argue from a transman's point of view.

If that was someone born female, it's disturbing, to say the least.

Datun · 07/04/2017 18:01

I'm not sure they can single one poster by name, to be honest. I think the fact that their posts have been deleted speaks for itself.

PoochSmooch · 07/04/2017 18:01

Please let the thread stand, MNHQ.

It should be very clear where the abuse has come from, and if you delete everything and issue a general warning, it's at risk of getting used as ammo once again in the "FWR is transphobic" campaign. You've only deleted one poster, so I'm not sure it's fair to categorise it as a bunfight...?

venusinscorpio · 07/04/2017 18:01

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OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 07/04/2017 17:57

Hmm homophobia, disablist, victim blaming, sexist - we're on the way to a full bingo card from one poster and yet we get a general warning.

AssassinatedBeauty · 07/04/2017 17:54

Everyone is posting within talk guidelines apart from one poster. I agree that a general reminder seems a bit OTT. I do hope that MNHQ have explained to that poster what was problematic about their posts.

UncontrolledImmigrant · 07/04/2017 17:45

interesting. One poster is repeatedly deleted (I can only assume these posts contained even grosser misogyny than in those allowed to stand) but we are all cautioned to recall talk guidelines.

Perhaps Mumsnet could clarify further- my addled housewife brain can't understand. Perhaps I ought to watch my kids do karate, I am given to understand it would sort out my menopausal symptoms

Hmm
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KatherineMumsnet · 07/04/2017 17:09

Hi all,

Can we remind everyone to post within talk guidelines, please, and to afford one another the same respect when posting as you would in a face-to-face conversation.

We really don't want to have to remove the thread because it's become a bunfight. As ever, if there are any posts that concern you - please do report these do us and we will always take a closer look.

GahBuggerit · 07/04/2017 16:53

They aren't safe though because there are biological men in there. But women are victimising themselves for not feeling safe in certain situations where there are biological men Confused

Is there such a thing as a trans snowflake?

VestalVirgin · 07/04/2017 16:53

Why do they keep thinking it though? What's their gain?

Women who submit to men get the illusion of safety and a crumbs of the cake that they don't dare demand half of.

I don't understand it, but it has been like that for centuries. The handmaidens who side with the genderists are just the same, by a different name.

If a trans man has a hyster, I imagine that they run slap into an immediate menopause as they have their ovaries removed?

I suppose so, yes. And all trans men who take testosterone eventually have to have their ovaries removed; the risk of cancer increases so much it's not really safe to keep them.

BeyondUser24601 · 07/04/2017 16:52

Wow. Just wow.

😂

FerdinandsRevenge · 07/04/2017 16:50
Grin
Datun · 07/04/2017 16:47

FerdinandsRevenge

And again when they made their entrance into the world. God gets a lot of mileage in my house.