Nordic Model on the Big Questions tomorrow

I don't have first hand experience of having an abortion or working in abortion services, but I sure as hell have an opinion on abortion law.

I've never been in the military or employed in foreign policy but have an opinion on the War on Iraq and Trident. Never claimed benefits but have an opinion on benefits cuts.

I've read up a lot on these issues, been told a lot, critically considered what I've been told and researched, and I've formed an opinion. All without close personal experience. How incredible.

How do you find it not having an opinion on most issues, since you don't have personal experience of them? Must be terribly boring to fence sit all the time.

You dont count gender

I appreciate sex workers who have come on here and discussed, i may not agree with them but they have the experience

You?

You dont count

Your experience does not count

I am the only person here with first hand experience? Everyone else is just basing their opinion on what they have been told. Nothing like informed debate.

If it's such a rewarding job and gives women the warm fuzzies to know that they are 'giving something back' and making such a positive difference to people's lives, then why aren't more people doing it? Why is it largely very vulnerable women, many of whom were abused or have serious drug issues doing it? Why are there very few happy, well adjusted women who just do it because they want to ease the suffering of men?

I'm in a 'caring profession'. Maybe i have been missing out by not letting men do unspeakable things to me for money.

I am the only person here with first hand experience? Everyone else is just basing their opinion on what they have been told. Nothing like informed debate. I have never been to Australia but I feel I am in a position to advise you all on potential visits.

Ive gone right off you ophilia

evil

So eliminate the harm. Then we can all worship sex workers as people who bring happiness to millions.

What is the most common other occupation of sex workers? It is nurse. There are some people who just want to give.

I had been reading your posts with some interest actually, but you have over egged it and i assume from the above that you are just being a goady fucker. Slow hand clap for you.

God dont ask him that!!!!

You can never take the harm out of prostitution.

GEA What do you think a WG does when she's on her period?.

Sex workers are female. Nurses are female.
Why can't men bring happiness to millions? The some people who "just want to give" by your own admission, actually have no other choice. It's not a real want, is it. Not like the wanting to stick your dick in something.

Unwanted sex is harmful. Unwanted sex is intrinsic to prostitution. You cannot take unwanted sex out of prostitution. Therefore you can't take away the harm of prostitution.

And I have to scoff at "diverse ways of living"
Upthread you revealed you think grooming teens into prostitution is just another way of life. I wonder what else your deviant mind sees as diverse - slavery or incest perhaps?

So eliminate the harm. Then we can all worship sex workers as people who bring happiness to millions.

What is the most common other occupation of sex workers? It is nurse. There are some people who just want to give.

Diverse ways of living that cause immense harm to women for the benefit of men.

Of course it is self interest. You take great interest in this because you've convinced yourself you need to buy women or kill yourself. That is your primary motivator: You, yourself and your own interests.

Self interest? Most sex workers will tell you they do not need your help. They would rather they were left to make their own choices. They do not need saving by people who live in Ivory Towers and fear human sexual behaviour.

We did away with a Christian morality which preached against sex only to replace it with this feminist puritanicalism.

Why do consenting adults (under law it is consent) need so much of your moral concern? We live to different values to those that you hold. Why can you not just accept diverse ways of living?

hold up thread, you suggested that gender shouldn't reason with us because we are all too narrow minded. Do you still maintain that he was only reasoning with us now that he has disclosed his motivation is purely self-interest?

What would stop me purchasing sex.... Nothing I can think of. I started in 1997 in my early 20s. Took a complete break during relationships but I am very much addicted. It is how I am wired. Poor impulse control and always highly fixated with women. I need medical intervention and chances are that if you took that part of my life away from me I would end up clinically depressed and dead. It keeps me calm, stable and sane.

Wowzers.

Don't you think it would be better for you to resolve your mental health issues with a qualified medical professional, rather than doing it by treating women as pieces of meat to buy and stick your penis into?

I don't get it?

anything you have to say about legalisation/decriminalisation is irrelevant due to a massive vested interest.
I know... i'm not going to look back now through the thread, but all those accusations abut us not caring about women's safety, poverty, livelihood, etc - such self-serving, disingenuous crap.

Thanks hold

I agree that poverty and drug addiction can be reasons for women becoming prostitutes

I dont think that the women shoukd be criminalised, but i dont think it should be legalised either

I probably dont have enough knowledge about it to be honest

Ugh actually your whole post is so wrong. I agree with guardian, you need a psychiatrist. Women don't owe you mental health. Ugh.

I am not advocating legalisation. I am very much against further criminalisation

ROFL - so you're not open to actually doing anything to regulate it and make it actually safer, or to criminalize it and reduce it. You just want to make it easier to pay women to fuck them.

I still say that the only 'ethical' brothel is one where you're only allowed to put your penis inside someone once you've had someone put their penis inside of you. You don't have to be attracted to the person putting their penis in you, after all, if those prostitutes wanted to have sex with you, they wouldn't be charging would they.

Gender, you need some help. None of those thoughts or behaviours are normal, and they certainly shouldn't be the basis for laws promoting the exploitation of women.

Alright. As you can't change your attitudes to women, you fucking deserve to be criminalised. No-one owes you sex and you admit your attitude won't change so anything you have to say about legalisation/decriminalisation is irrelevant due to a massive vested interest.

gender have you sought medical/psychiatric advice? It sounds as though you have some issues to sort out for both your sakes and the women you buy.

What would stop me purchasing sex.... Nothing I can think of. I started in 1997 in my early 20s. Took a complete break during relationships but I am very much addicted. It is how I am wired. Poor impulse control and always highly fixated with women. I need medical intervention and chances are that if you took that part of my life away from me I would end up clinically depressed and dead. It keeps me calm, stable and sane.