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Isolated for challenging boys at school

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getoffthesofa · 29/03/2017 11:06

DD (13) has just made her first foray into fighting the good fight at school, but is now feeling wounded and isolated and upset.

She asked her teacher to address the fact that she was allocated (by the boys) a supporting/passive role in a team where she is the only girl and does not want this role. They have, boringly & inevitably, given themselves the front and centre positions.

She was angry at how unfair this was and the fact that she was given no choice and that they will not negotiate.

At the weekend she wrote a fabulous letter to her teacher saying that as a minority female in her class and team (and school for that matter) she should not a) have a role that she does not want foisted on her by the boys and b) that she should be able to chose a more prominent/active role - she described it in terms of positive discrimination, visibility and opportunity for her as a female pupil.

The teacher (male) has been excellent and supported her position and directed the team to re-allocate the roles. They (the boys) have entirely ignored the direction, slagged her off to the entire class, gone off and worked on the project without her and she is now facing commentary and hassle from her whole class (girls included). She says "no one gets it Mum" and is feeling really bruised, even the sympathetic girls don't really understand where she is coming from with this. She has been told that she is being sexist, that it isn't sexist, what if it were a boy (erm - not even remotely the issue - because, dur, she isn't), she got told by a girl she has "read too much feminism" !!! Some of the comments are now veering into bullying.

My heart is breaking for her and I feel so guilty that I have sensitised her and essentially made her vulnerable to attack; she challenges something (and is right to) and then she has to go out and fight this crap on her own. The isolation of expressing a feminist opinion, socially, is horrible - how do I show her that there is solidarity out there and women who understand and believe her? I am so proud of her.

She is tired and torn between just giving it up, and really not wanting to roll over. She knows about @everydaysexism - but what else can I do? I feel awful saying, this is how the world is and you have to keep on fighting.

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KanyesVest · 29/03/2017 13:20

I'm in awe of her. Congratulations to such an articulate, knowledgeable and intelligent girl.

getoffthesofa · 29/03/2017 13:17

She is awesome! I wish she believed it. I think now we need to go into protection mode to ensure she isn't hassled further, but need to take direction from her I think. Not sure how this will pan out, but uckily hols are coming up and the gossip side will blow over.

Your messages are really helpful, I will show her. Good to know we /she aren't alone, but such a shame to see yet another generation battling this rubbish.

Isolated for challenging boys at school
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ChampagneTastes · 29/03/2017 12:13

Your daughter is awesome. I'm sorry she's not getting the support that she needs from her peers. Why not have a chat with the teacher and see if you he and your DD can formulate a plan to tackle this?

This is the hardest bit of protest - when you find yourself isolated and laughed at. If she can make it through this with her integrity in tact she will be a force to be reckoned with.

getoffthesofa · 29/03/2017 12:11

Yes Isay they apparently decided, and then they told her it was two against one and therefore democratic (!!). It's crappy behaviour, but the focus has now become the issue of her complaining about sexism rather than the assertion, dominance and enacting of entitled male privilege (that's me - she just points out that it is unfair!). I am quite shocked that the little buggers have ignored a direct instruction from their teacher.

It does help to hear that you think she is brave and are proud of her. I will tell her when she gets home today.

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HamletsSister · 29/03/2017 12:10

As a teacher, I would be reminding groups that they are learning beyond the scope of the actual project. In other words, such projects involve "soft" skills (actually, the hardest to teach) which include empathy, working with others, knowing when to speak, knowing when to listen etc, etc.

I would be allocating 2 separate marks (or pieces of feedback) 1 mark for the project's content (if Geography, the Geog stuff etc) and another for the other skills involved.

And then hammer them - fail the project.

OpalIridescence · 29/03/2017 12:07

Very hard and often painful to go against a peer group and challenge status quo.

I don't know any advice to make that bruised feeling not hurt quite so much but, yes I am really proud of your daughter too, she is fighting a tedious fight that does not seem to go away.

Maybe her teacher needs to step in again, apart from the fact she shouldn't have to deal with this on her own, it might do the girls and boys some good to see this issue being taken seriously by an adult?

ISaySteadyOn · 29/03/2017 11:56

Your DD is very brave. So, the boys just told her 'You're doing x thing' without even discussing who would do what? That's really dreadful group work. I'd take marks off for that if I were a teacher.

ElizaDontlittle · 29/03/2017 11:48

I am sure there are so many of us that will empathise with the feeling of, well if this is how it is I want to give in. Serious respect for her tackling it positively and assertively. I'm not sure what else you can do but I am proud of her too.

getoffthesofa · 29/03/2017 11:38

Thank you, it does!

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HelenDenver · 29/03/2017 11:12

I am proud of her too, if that helps.

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